Looked in to leaf through latest posts as a distraction break while working to improve old black & white photos of Battle of Britain Air Shows, including some of Brigands; only to find a thread about Brigands!  These photos (some scanned from negative, some from prints) are in a large collection of ’50s and ’60s photos taken, or collected by Don Stephens, the compiler of ‘Wrecks and Relics’ editions 1 and 2 (1961 and 1963).  Most are clearly identified and dated, but not all.  They all appear to be Brigand T.4s, originally constructed as Mk. B.1s (Bruce Robertson, British Military Aircraft Serials 1912-1963, Ian Allan 1964).

RH758/R is dated RAF Colerne September 1956 (the others being 1957), presumably at the time of their Battle of Britain Air Display.  Year might be an error?

RH771, RAF Colerne, at the time of their Battle of Britain Display 14th September 1957 (scanned from negative).  The Gloster Meteor F.4 beyond is 7151M/60 (VT229).

RH774/C, no place or date provided with this print.  This one being near complete would appear to be in an air display static aircraft line-up.  Filed with the other Brigand shots, likely also 14.09.57 Colerne, but not confirmed.

RH775, one of line of aircraft being stripped, at RAF Colerne at the time of their Battle of Britain display, 14th September 1957.

RH806 at the head of a line of at least 6, possibly 7 aircraft (RH775 is the second along) at the time of the RAF Colerne Battle of Britain display, 14th September 1957.  Scanned from a negative.

RH829/J, RAF Colerne, at the time of their Battle of Britain Display 14th September 1957 (scanned from a negative).

If only one of these had lasted another few years in the back of a Colerne hangar, it would have been wheeled across to join the aircraft being collected together at Colerne, eventually to move to the Royal Air Force Museum at Hendon and this discussion thread lamenting the lack of a complete survivor would be unnecessary. If only ….

Not really wishing to prolong this castigation of Kent Battle of Britain Museum, it seems to me that the contributors have not consulted the reasons put forward for enforcing their no camera rule?  Home :: Kent Battle of Britain Museum   Note that the website does state that photography of the exterior exhibits is possible towards the end of your visit if accompanied by staff.

Each summer for a week while visiting the UK from Southern Spain, I have been attempting to visit all Britain’s aviation museums (defined by me as having five for more complete aircraft and open to the public at least 2 days per week during the summer).  So far, in 3 summers, covered 30 of the 43 or so candidates.  Hawkinge BofB, Kent is on my list for ’25, as is a revisit to Tangmere – another Museum with a no cameras rule, for much the same reasons.  The Museums that have impressed me most so far are the South Wales Museum at St.Athan and the Ulster Aviation Museum near Belfast (even though it currently falls outside my access definition).  Both have relaxed rules and the absolute minimum of safety barriers, with an impressive variety of aircraft to see up close.  Just a pity they are so far out of the way for many to easily visit!  Greatest disappointment, NMS East Fortune as the few external aircraft are suffering badly from weathering, not a single change of exhibits in 6 years since I was last there, this while having a hangar full of interesting types totally out of bounds.  Admittedly, in contrast entering the aviation gallery of NMS Edinburgh City was the most delightful surprise of all!  I could go on … any point in a thread for experiences/opinions regarding Britain’s, generally fantastic, aviation museums – from international to local?

At risk of “doing a Vahe.D” the entries in the AIr Britain G–E··· and G-A··· Register monographs (pub. circa 1970) for the 3 Supermarine Seagulls confirms some details, but adds little:

G-EBXH Supermarine Seagull III, was N9653, no c/no.   CofA issue 16.07.28.  Coastal Flying Boat Services at Shoreham.                                                        Withdrawn on CofA Expiry 15.07.29.  Scrapped in 1930. Marks cancelled 1.37.

G-EBXI Supermarine Seagull III, was N9654, no c/no.  Regd 03.04.28.  Coastal Flying Boat Services at Shoreham.                                                                        Not converted and used for spares.  Scrapped in 1930.  Marks cancelled on 15.06.28.

G-AAIZ Supermarine Seagull III, was N9605, no c/no.  CofA issue 10.07.29.  Travel & Tour Association Ltd of Brooklands.                                                         Operated from Jersey in October 1929.  Last owned by George W. Higgs at Brooklands from 13.02.30, but withdrawn from use with CofA                   expiry on 09.07.30.  Dismantled and later burned at Brooklands.  Marks cancelled in the 1933 census.

VErcoli, I suggest, if you are permitted to, that you now delete the e-mail address from your post.  

When you look at your post, if there is a little diagonal pencil (actually an eraser) logo lower right corner, then click over and you will find yourself back in the ‘compose’ box and able to delete (or add) to your message and repost.  However, I suspect you have to be a member for a number of posts before the ability to ‘edit’ your own posts becomes available.    

The terms ‘nose’, ‘cockpit’ and ‘forward fuselage’ are frequently used interchangeably to describe the same section of an aircraft.  One person’s reference to a cockpit, could well be another’s nose section.  Also photos of aircraft on private property, do tend to be much rarer than aircraft at an airfield location. 

I have Don Stephens’s, the compiler of W&R I & II (1961 & 1963) b&w photo print collection.  Probably too early for information on D-IDEK’s survival to have spread north to Merseyside, even so I’ve checked and no photo there.  It would have been Ken Ellis who noted the demise of the cockpit/nose section of the Avro C.19 in the 8th edition (1982).

The CAA site ‘G-INFO’ shows several owners since Melvin Hiscock.  The latest notified change of ownership is dated January 2024 to a Richard Kilpatrick of Deal, so the answer would appear to be yes.

To keep this thread rolling, a couple more maritime Lancasters to illustrate further:

RE186/H:C, Lancaster, School of Maritime Reconnaissance. At Blackbushe during SBAC Farnborough week, 10th September 1955

SW366/H:Z Lancaster.  Also at Blackbushe during SBAC week, year not known, but mid 50’s.

SW367 Lancaster (full code likely H:X), date and location not known, but judging by that hill beyond is certainly not Blackbushe!

I take it that the fitting below the former rear turret position that is just discernable on the lower shot, is what the previous postee is asking about.