Damien, tricky choice, beer or aircraft. A 50/50 ball I’d say.
Wessex Boy, sorry I missed you but you did get the tail of the Airtourer in your picture of the Auster. Come and say hello at the next one and Rhys can come and have a twiddle on the controls. I liked the last shot of the apron against the light. It was in my eyes all the way home so I flew one-handed shielding my eyes with the other one.
Arm Waver, yes it did get a bit complicated with the parking didn’t it? The Cherokee that landed in front of me was parked with you but I ended up on the apron. Oh well see you at Fenland
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Blue Robin. I think you’ll find that the aircraft in the last picture is a Brugger Colibro G-BKRH I think. It’s a Swiss design and is basically a Jodel with Turbulent wings. Very pretty but quite small inside.
Well I made it to Conington in the faithful Airtourer, G-AWVG, at 1142. Tried to find Arm Waver and Damien but failed and got some strange looks from a couple of people I accosted. Good turnout though so roll on Fenland in April I believe?
Which forecast are you looking at Damien? Look East has just given South-westerly at 12kts with sunny periods. Everything else including the “Long TAF” is giving rain showers and a moderate hoolie. Anyway I’ll try to make it if she starts.
Didn’t Blackpool host the first ever UK airshow in about 1910? Apparently I was taken to one around 1947 when the original Spitfire with the red and silver colour scheme was flying and I remember our cadet force was recruited to man the gate at a show in about 1957 or 1958.
Stormbird, what happened to the Bristol 170 that was at Wangaratta? I was there 3 years ago and it was hoped that it could be brought back to the UK but as ever finance got in the way. By the way I was at school in Blackpool and saw the 170 that crashed at Winter Hill from our form room as it flew to it’s end. A day of low cloud and some drizzle. Very sad.
Thanks Spey but you’ve answered my query. I just wanted to check my memory hadn’t completely deserted me.
Wrong area entirely, but I seem to remember that on a visit to the mother-in-law on the Costa Geriatric, that I saw a Sea Vixen in a pub garden near Christchurch in the 70s. Did it just overrun the airfield on landing perhaps? (Joke). There might also have been an S-55 Whirlwind there as well but the memory fades.
I suppose there is some logic as British Airways allegedly bought Dan-Air for £1 and they in turn were the result of a merger between BOAC and BEA. Thus BA have got some of their heritage preserved despite their apparent lack of money to preseve the Cosford collection.
The Science Museum do of course have the “out” collection at Wroughton but they don’t seem to have a clear policy on what to do with it. However there are hangars there. Would any be big enough to house Concorde? You could always move the Connie and Boeing 247 which don’t have much in the way of UK provenance. (Waits for the incoming)
Something similar has been around in the world of historic motor racing for some time. Since the supply of genuine factory built Jaguar D-Types and Maserati 250Fs is finite there have been a great many copies or continuation series replicas built. Initially they were passed off as genuine to the uninitiated but more recently they have started to be purchased and raced by the owners of the true originals which stay in their garages. This, of course, means that they are developing a value greater than the cost of production. Thus a Le Mans winning Jaguar might be worth £1.5-£2.0 million, a replica could cost £150K to build and is probably now worth £250K in it’s own right. The fact that it has modern brakes tyres and suspension means that it isn’t true to the spirit of the original and this is causing concern to the FIA, which monitors motorsport. It will be interesting to see how they deal with it.
I’m not sure that this would work with Melvyns Rearwin but I could see that a batch of repro Spitfires might be possible.
The USA, I believe, but not certain where.
Didn’t the Brooklands Society have the Vanguard running in the recent past?
This problem of what’s a reproduction or a rebuild etc has been seen before in the world of historic car racing. The Maserati 250F is notorious for the number of “genuine” examples which I believe was 36 or 37. When 41 were accounted for on one raceday, 22 on the grid, 6 in the USA and 13 in museums round the world, then the experts got together and decided enough was enough and after careful inspection they all have to have historic certificates/passports. The problem is that they are very expensive to race so the wealthier owners have further replicas built and keep the genuine articles in their garages. I believe the Lola T70 is being built with chassis numbers in sequence with the 60’s originals and is being called a “Continuation” series. As the 60’s materials are probably no longer available they aren’t exactly the same as the originals so perhaps that’s an answer for the new FW 190s.
Goof, this works until the first high-profile city banker gets hurt in an aircraft run on this basis. He will then call in the best lawyers and I can almost guarantee that it will end the pleassure-flying pretty quickly if indeed he makes a living at it. The rules are quite clear and if it’s any more than cost-sharing it ain’t legal.
Just to slightly correct Strinbag’s comment that the Classic Wings fleet are on Transport “permits”. They are actually on the old CAA Transport Category Certificates of Airworthiness. In addition Classic Wings have to hold an Air Operators Certificate (AOC) which effectively makes them a mini-airline with all the CAA requirements that go with it.
As the CAA can no longer be the Type Certificate holder for a specific type, Vickers-Supermarine are long gone and I don’t suppose B. Ae. Systems or whoever they are this week would be interested, then the Spitfire can only ever be a Permit aircraft and as others have said it cannot be used for commercial operations. However a Google for the Grace Spitfire website will get you on the waiting list if you have the money. I believe the Welsh one also does “cost-sharing” flights.