Something strange about your punctuation Manston, you ought to be a journalist.
The problem is that as enthusiasts we can’t switch the publicity on and off as we might wish, so the series of incidents at Duxford are bound to create interest to the public at large. Comparing the news value of a Mondeo crash on the M11 with that of a warbird is a pointless exercise and if I was a newspaper editor or Look East/Anglia reporter then I could guess which item has the greater news value. Sad but true and I still think the Cambridge Evening News report was a fair assessment of the Duxford record with the possible exception of the Firefly incident.
I disagree. I think it is a reasonably non-emotive summary of what is becoming a rather depressing record which could disturb the general public. The problem is that there is nowhere else in the UK with the variety of airborne warbird activity with which to draw a comparison.
I think Nosedive is getting somewhere near a workable solution but who would the “authority” be that gives the information. The American NTSB do something similar and there was a bulletin on the recent Hunter crash that was out within 24 hours. It would be good if our AAIB could publish something along the lines of:-
” The aircraft had commenced it’s take-off run when the starboard tyre burst. The aircraft departed the runway to the right, crossed a drainage ditch which removed the rest of the u/c and came to rest against a wall. The crew were able to vacate the aircraft unaided”.
No opinions expressed and enough to subdue speculation. Just out of interest I was considering purchasing one of the “plastic fantastic” microlights about this time last year when one crashed in strange circumstances so I waited for the AAIB report. And waited. And waited until eventually the report was published 10 months later when of course the aircraft I was interested in had long been sold. Nor did the report come up with any firm conclusions for the reasons for the crash.
Not this one.
G-ASML, did you make it? The reason I ask is that one of the original Minors was there, G-AMAW I think. Not looking bad for it’s age, I wonder if it flew in?
When researching the history of Classic Wings’ Tiger Moths I came across a reference to the “yellow one”, DF112 or G-ANRM being used by the Coventry Gliding Club some time before 1965. Not much to go on but I hope it helps.
The chap who sold his Luton Minor at our strip has now turned up with a Rand KR-2. I remember a Brittania captain commenting on a previous Rand at the strip and saying “the trim tab on my 767 is bigger than the wing on this thing”. It distinguished itself by wrapping itself up in a ball at the feet of the new purchaser at the end of the delivery flight. No harm done to the occupant but a disgruntled new owner.
Paul, as I understand it the UK system is for a Display Authorisation (DA) to be issued after an inspection by an approved observer. This will have a limit on the lowest permitted level at first issue and that can be amended as experience is gained. However really low-level aeros are a bit pointless at Duxford as it’s such a flat arena. A previous airfield manager would always plead with pilots to keep tham fairly high so people in the back row could see what was going on. Try telling that to the Hannas though.
Cosmic Wind, your comments are harsh but true. You can add the Kingcobra at Biggin to the list of possible high viz pilot errors. And Damien I’m not sure how you think I was proposing some sort of legislation. All I was suggesting was that if the AAIB gathered the KNOWN facts and published them within 2-3 days it might stop the uninformed speculation. The thought being that they are the ultimate provider of the accident report and therefore have some gravitas. By the way I think I was just behind you in the crowd at Marham, Damien. Excellent shots and the CO was enjoying himself wasn’t he?
This subject is always well aired after a crash. The problem as I see it is that the AAIB take a long time (up to 12 months or more) to investigate and publish the report. Compare this with the NTSB who publish a statement of the KNOWN facts very quickly which I believe helps to curtail the speculation. They published the initial report on the Hunter crash in the USA within 3 days. I do however feel that any discussion on these forums which makes people think about not doing whatever appears to have led to a crash cannot be a bad thing.
Dave, thanks for the update on the Moth story..fascinating stuff. I should have said that the last Brisfits in service in the UK were the ones in UAS service. You’re right, that’s University Air Squadron.
I think the commentator at OW said the last ones in service flew with a UAS Squadron in the 1930s but my Ozzie mate was nattering at the time and I didn’t get the full story (Sorry Feather No 3). Oh and BTW Dave you can’t just drop in the comment about the armed DH60 without a bit more comment. What was the story?
It’s very difficult to have any negative thoughts about any airshow which has 3 Brisfits in the air at once and a quarter of the world’s Spitfires doing a tailchase. The flying as ever was superb and hats off to everybody who made it happen. However I wonder if some adjustment might be made to the running order so that perhaps it was done in chronological order, oldest first to give the general public an idea of how aviation developed. Some acts can be overshadowed by a heavy warbird performing before it. I thought the Seafire over the Catalinas was a nice touch as personally I find the Catalina the most boring act on the circuit but I realise I’m in a minority there.
It might be nice to have the Spitfires fly past in the sequence of their Mark numbers before hooning off into their tailchase, just to show how they changed shape and noise. Finally don’t be too hard on Monsieur Chabbert. From experience it’s VERY difficult getting the balance right in a commentary and must be even more so in a foreign language. I’d like to see you lot do a commentary in French at La Ferte Alais.
Possibly so but it wouldn’t have been too hard to leave the TSR-2 where it had been and pop the Anson in the slot where the TSR-2 currently resides. I guess the Anson has to pass that area anyway. I just think it’s an opportunity missed. I guess the Shackleton isn’t up to towing anyway.