I think YAK11 is right. It’s a “Vintage” 2-day weekend fly-in with classic aircraft and cars. I’ll be there in my Airtourer if I can find my way there.
Thanks chaps. I’ll let them know.
Spey111, I think “factory caught fire” is a euphemism for “allegedly somebody with a grudge set fire to the place”. It was all a bit mysterious and was the subject of a BBC documentary. It all happened as production was ramping up but the fire and the Ringwood crash put paid to that. FLS Aerospace took it on for a while, along with the SAH-1 and they all ended up at North Weald.
I saw the Ozzie one at Hoxton Park near Sydney in 1999 and it was a flyer then.
TSR-2 was designed to operate off grass although I don’t think it ever proved that. I have a de Havilland (ah de havilland!) video which shows the Jet Dragon, better known as the DH 125 exec jet landing on the grass at Hatfield…very odd.
Trinny, I stand (partially) corrected as I believe if you approach Socata with a big enough bag of wonga, they will knock you out a TB20 but I agree they are not in full production. I’ve been to the last 3 Friedrichshafen shows and have seen it grow year by year. I think the reasons for this are the superb permanent facilities (the Germans do like a Messe (exhibition)) and it’s central European location. There were loads of Czech, Slovak and Slovenian registered a/c in the visitors park and no I’m not a “grubby spotter”. Wycombe 2006 will be interesting.
Amusing watching the sparring twixt Trinny and Skybolt but to say any criticism should be directed to the PFA is plainly laughable. Their inability to accept any form of comment is legendary, my letters go unheeded. AOPA on the other hand do seem to be making progress off a small base.
As for FFF05 where were Cessna, Cirrus, Piper, Socata and all the other GA manufacturers? Where were the gliders, hang-gliders, parachutists, model aircraft and gliders all of which are on parade at Friedrichshafen? They were promised in the blurb and they didn’t appear. As a fly-in it was fine, as a GA show it was a non-starter and if you don’t believe me Skybolt, have a look at some other forums (fora?)
Thanks Habu, that would make sense.
Anybody know why the Icelandic DC-3 didn’t join the formation?
There are some refinements developing amongst the “great unwashed”. One chap was calling out the registrations and his wife/girlfriend/partner was copying them down in immaculate calligraphy. Another guy was mumbling in to a portable recorder. Whatever next, they might just save the money and learn to fly.
I picked up a pamphlet at FFF2005 for a new GA event at Wycombe next year which has the look of a mini-Friedrichshafen in that some of it will be under cover. This might give the purveyors of the more up-market GA stuff reason to attend along with the kit builders. It must be hard to sell a £150,000 aircraft out of a tent on soggy grass.
And on the subject of the number-crunchers, when we got back to our 182 about a dozen of them had set up camp under the wing to avoid the rain and looked quite peeved when we got ready to go. And which bit of “Clear Starting” is hard to understand? Mind you some of them looked so old they were probably deaf, not their fault of course, but I thought self-preservation might have kicked in.
And now watch out for the PFA broadside. “It was all wonderful and so on”. I was there on Friday with a chum who was on the lookout for a good used Cessna 182 and having read there was going to be a greater GA presence he had thought that the main dealers would be there as suggested in the promotional literature. As Trinny and Melvyn have already said it was pretty much the “same old, same old” with a few new “plastic fantastics” thrown in.
I had thought it would have been an Aerofair plus homebuilts but in the end it was all a bit flat. Shame really but we had a good flight down despite the rain.
LS, the laws of libel being what they are I didn’t want to mention the “rocker’s” name but I wasn’t referring to Martyn even though he may have put on a bit of weight. Are you doing Legends?
It’s so secret it’s not on the latest 1/2 million map so watch out if you’re going to Kemble by air this weekend. (It’s just South of the disused strip at Chedworth.) I believe one of the “geriatric rockers” has a Jet Ranger and a Cub based thereabouts.
I worked in Libya from 1966-68 and subscribe to the view that Libya is the a…hole of Africa and Misurata, where I worked, is 130 miles up it. There wasn’t much air activity other than overflying Canberras from El Adem (?) but a demo Islander arrived at the huge ex-USAAF strip at Misurata one day. I don’t know who was more surprised, me to see an Islander in the middle of nowhere or the pilot to find an Englishman. Prior to the discovery of oil the export of scrap metal, i.e tanks and other war material, was one of the main foreign currency earners so I guess a lot of the aircraft got swept up in that. I hope crazymainer is right but I won’t hold my breath.
As I understand it “ownership” of this airframe is allegedly a subject of some debate.