It’s actually an issue regarding Laminar flow.
(first generation Comet, 707 had an LD of about 17-20:1 and the latest B7/A3something have LD’s of around 25-26:1……. Interestingly Vulcan has an LD of 23-24:1, stunningly good for it’s time I think!)
Vega ECM – an interesting & informative post 🙂
Are the airliner L/D’s measured with engines at zero thrust, or off/windmilling ? Could be quite a big difference there.
Totally agree about the Vulcan. Awesome.
I think 37 is an extremely good L/D – indeed it’s only really the top sailplanes that get over 50.
Off the top of my head, I’d also be supprised if most airliners exceed the 10-12 range. The trend to large diameter (hence drag area) fan engines would be a major issue to L/D.
Randall Wallace wrote Pearl Harbor, along with another “historical” drama directed by a short-**** Aussie Yank playing a Scot. I seem to recall that movie being fantastically historically accurate, too! :rolleyes:
Yes, William Wallace (a far back relation to Randall I wonder? :rolleyes: ) was reputed to be well over 6 feet tall, but played by said short-**** Aussie Yank.
Have to say tho. I loved Patrick McGoohan as Longshanks – what a great ‘baddie’ – with real ‘presence’ 🙂
I said ‘calm’, rather than in a panicing due to circumstances. From the nature of the transmission, it wasn’t anything different to any other transmission. Any experienced morse operator will send rapidly.
Steve
Point taken – but I wasn’t trying to imply any ‘panicing’, merely that the crew (the w/op in particular) was busy. The receiver on the ground would also be an experienced w/op and I felt that in order for him to comment that it was ‘rapid’ meant faster than the norm. he would be used to as an experienced w/op. I guess we don’t really know enough about the circumstances to conclude anything from the speed – Stardust’s w/op might just have been quick on the key in general.
The CGI planes look good, but shame they have to slow them right down to unrealisitc speeds. Doubt even a Cessna could fly at the speeds depicted.
The radio operator must have been in a calm radio conversation with the ground
Not so sure on the ‘calm’ aspect – the report was that the message was sent ‘rapidly’, although ‘STENDEC’ was repeated indentically twice more by the receiver’s request. I speculate that the ‘rapid’ transmission indicates a busy w/op & aircrew, probably preparing to descend from cruise – albeit tragically too soon as events would tell.
I agree that the exact repetition of ‘STENDEC’, three times must exclude hypoxia. STENDEC obviously meant something to the w/op and he must have thought the meaning obvious to the receiver or some brief elaboration would have been forthcoming. Very strange though is that it was repeated TWICE to a querying receiver but no qualifying elaboration – however brief – was forthcoming.
To me I speculate the w/op was a) compos mentis, b) seems very busy at the time, and c) confident that the receiver would understand STENDEC.
Just my 2 cents.
Had the opportunity to sit in the cockpit of XL502 during her stay at Sandtoft.
What amazed me was the engineering involved in the aileron controls – they actually still work with the wings folded !!
In the care of the guys at Elvington. Not seen it myself – cue to get over there and take a closer look.
Nice to be on track with this thread.
Unfortunately – was looking pretty corroded during it’s last days at Sandtoft. Visited quite often and checked it out.
This piccie was taken Sept 04
Was gonna say a Boomerang – but it’s not short/stocky enough.
Yes – are they Anson’s ?
I believe some were built in Canada.
What’s the black radial engined plane behind the Mossie?
Not really a scrap yard, but here are some shots taken a year or so back of the Sandtoft B-25, Lincoln/Lancaster parts.
It’s a crying shame they’re in such condition. 🙁
I agree. people who buy lottery tickets and who have donated money should be able to see what is going on for free.
Donations – yes I agree.
But people who buy lottery tickets?? Everyone?? People don’t buy lottery tickets primarily as a means to make donations, they buy them because they want to win.
BA has put a lot into aircraft preservation in the past but is now in a financial crisis and to survive has to suspend all non-essential expenditure.
Shame shareholder dividends don’t come under ‘non-essential expenditure’.
BA is typical of large floated corporations. Shareprice & dividends are ‘gods’ and s*d anything else.
The VC-10, there’s two preserved already and the RAF will be giving away (slightly) better examples soon.
Hmmm – ‘VM is the only true passenger ‘standard’ preserved I believe.
The RAF examples will be highly ‘gutted’ ex tanker versions, and most (if not all now – are there any ‘Standards’ left?) of the RAF’s are ‘Super’s
I don’t agree they’re better.