Whether Iran is a theocracy or not has no relevance to its defense industry :rolleyes: Everyone with at least the brain of a cockroach understands, whether they believe in God or not, that science and technology are fundamental to weapons which are the most important to winning wars 😎
yes i agree. science and technology are fundamental.
what you dont understand is
iran is a theocracy. they value religion over science. so they rather spend more time on funding religion than science because science is usually the enemy of religion.
israel is a secular democracy. they value science and bargains. thus they are more willing to sponsor science.
thats why Israel can make these which are powered by the achievements of science
and why Iran makes these, which rely on the power of religion and faith to make airborne
Judaism is also a religion. Religion has nothing to do with engineering and weapons. No religion in the world denies the fact that science and technology are important for weapons and war. Also, action speaks louder than words. If Israel thinks it can make an air strike on Iran, it is welcome to try it.
Israel is not a theocracy your rant is moot.
And how exactly doesn’t Iran value education? :rolleyes:
Over 35,000 in the defense sector. About a third of them university graduates. Iran also has thousands of graduate students studying engineering in the West.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_Industries_Organization
Israel is 75% Jewish, but it has the Star of David on its flag and is internationally recognized as the Jewish state. Could be different when Arabs make up 50% of Israel’s population.
Iran values theology over science. of course you’ll have graduate students if they go to theology schools.
case in point. Iran’s leader studied religion in college. israel’s leader studied architecture and political science at MIT.
most people consider religion a mickey mouse course.
Y Besides, I’d like to know how Malaysia knows where and when these F-35s will be taking off and what they’d do about it if they got airbourne.
simple, they will be taking off from air strips. you expect them to take off from the ocean?
After the troubles the RMAF have had with their Russian aircraft, I don’t think they’re keen on purchasing another Russian fighter, it won’t be ready anyway.
RMAF complaints are mostly with MiG. I haven’t heard anything about Sukhoi
If they want something with solid A/A capabilities their best choice would be Typhoon.
of course you’d say that.
racism much? :rolleyes:
Israel is not a race. it is a country that values education. Israel has Jews, Arabs, Ethiopians, and Marvins.
F/A-18E/F is a contender in my mind for a few possible reasons:
1. Malaysia has adopted multiple suppliers preference.
2. They already operate F/A-18D
3. A while back there was some discussion of an F/A-18D buyback and RMAF receiving 18 F/A-18E/F. Whilst F/A-18D replacement isn’t mentioned, it is possible for Beoing to offer something along these lines (so 26 x F/A-18E/F to replace MiG-29 AND F/A-18D.The only fly in the ointment is Singapore’s potential acquisition of F-35.
Malaysia doesn’t need a fighter to counter Singaporean F-35s.. it just needs lots of artillery to take them out before they even takeoff. All of Singapore should be within range.
but Malaysia’s relations with Singapore is good now so its a moot point.
but what Fabriz said is right..
Indonesia and China are the problems now and angry Filipinos crossing by boat.
with China sending swarms of J-20 into the south china sea and Indonesia with KFX
there’s only one solution and that’s Pak-fa!!
some body photoshop a pak-fa in Malaysian colors.
and it’ll be paid for in palm oil. good deal my friends.
a month old but never posted
South Korea holds KFX development,delays it over a year. Indonesia concerned.
Apache numbers are a lot higher (I have seen anywhere from 32 to 52 million per bird).
Considering the equipment on Ka-52s being delivered today, 26 million is a solid deal.
Australian Tigres are 31 million, so hokums are pretty nice deal. don’t know about operating costs.
The sighting system of Toufan II is akin to those of Super Hind and AH-1Z and WZ-10, in that it is of the helmet slaved all moving ball type. Mi-28N has a similar sight. Toufan II is similar in capability to Mi-28N. Toufan II is a light attack chopper, not a heavy attack such as Mi-28N or Apache.
Mi-28N is the 4th most capable attack helicopter in the world
Toufan maybe 20th, certainly behind the top light attack helicopters which are Tigre, Turkey Mongoose, and Super Cobra. and definitely far behind the heavy ones.
Iran is over 79 times the size of Israel and has nearly 10 times the population. Israel can make top notch weapons like Arrow and Greenpine, Merkava 4, Trophy, Lavi (based on F-16), Phalcon, well so can Iran 😎
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_equipment_of_Israel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_Industries_Organization
if Iran is over 79 times bigger than Israel..
Israel is then 90x smarter than Iran. that simple.
ps Iran never received any M1s
they also lost Iraq when they tried to gouge them for MF1-2000s… when the iraqis wanted rafales. Typhoon seems like a natural choice now that the “peninsula shield” is becoming more mature and interoperability, joint depots and training etc… become real issues. I would not be surprised to see KSA / Oman joined by Kuwait, Qatar, UAE… maybe even Iraq and Jordan (as the UAE and Kuwait have already sounded out that they wish to “invite” Iraq into the peninsula shield).
that’s unfortunate. France makes very awesome weapons but have the worst salesmen.
an april 1 gag 😀
see EEE’s post about the visit to London
mig-31 only had 4 wing pylons. I think the inner two pylons can handle an AShM weapon. the other two pylons would likely be fuel tanks or self defense missiles.
potentially I think the fueselage could carry it but it would need some modification.
I don’t know about the flight profile needed to launch it.
Maybe some missed that nearly all military items in Egypt were bought with or the help of US money and favorable credits since 1977. 😉
will Egypt continue to receive US money and credits with this new government that’s anti-US?
in the long term Egypt wants to fight Israel so it will need something that can handle the F-35. its only options are J-20, Pak-Fa, and J-31.
I don’t see China exporting J-20 or Russia Pak-fa. so J-31 it is.
There is some logic to the idea of just going all in for more Su-30, but I think the difference (besides ToT which they already have from Su-30, and Rafale offers new and different approaches/tech) is in the longer term picture, where Su-30 would NOT be the high end dominant fighter it is vs. new ‘stealth’ platforms from China. In that long term picture, a Rafale which would have France’s top notch developments applied to MLU would be just as or more effective at nearly all A2G, and be cheaper to operate.
you think Rafale can take on j-20 and j-31?