I think its safe we can call the Superjet the right decision. It was long and hard, but the plane is coming off better than ANY Russian attempt to break into the airline market since the USSR. Real useful numbers will be coming out this year, hopefully the plane makes a good impression and follows up with more exports signed this decade.
http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/26241/
5th prototype Superjet flew, this one in the LR configuration.
23 total birds have been built.
TR1,
Could you tell me a bit more about the LR configuration? Wikipedia doesn’t say much about it.
Also are there any carriers planning to use a fleet exclusively of MS-21? (probably a low cost carrier?)
For your time TR1, here’s a picture of your distant relative.. TR85

quite a looker!
Lockheed F-X uses DSI.
The Gripen E/F too is using DSI.
Gripen EF is not using DSI
Boeing cg is an old one.. their more recent model shows no DSI
KFX, ATD-X, AMCA also opted against DSI
Lockheed model is not DSI, its something new.
Your declaration sounds like your F-18 will be able to go anywhere without fuel? Further, do you suggest that F-18 in your image were carrying empty external fuel tank since it had flown?
F-18s have a range problem like MiG-29s, so they carry fuel tanks duh.
Also F-18s are often used for ground attack missions and they carry fuel tanks to reach their destinations duh.
That’s the difference between real operational configurations and all your pictures that are air show configurations.
Also no point in posting pictures of MiG-29KUBs with 4 fuel tanks. They are configured for tanker operations. It’s not the same thing.. unless you think the Indians plan to drop empty fuel tanks on the head of some poor Pakistani soldier..
Internal fuel for Mirage 2000 is around 3 tons. plus maximum external fuel 2×2000L+1700L extend its original range to 4000km at top.
The internal fuel capacity for MiG-29SMT is 6100kg. Maximum external fuel tanks is loaded totally around 6 tons as almost same as internal fuel. Even only three will reach 3400km.
lol so now you use the SMT figures even though we were talking about Kagril conflict. In case you didn’t know, no SMTs were used. Throw your useless figures out the window again just as your images
No space for bombs?
Does your eyes had any problem to see the images or you are selectively blind. Or you’ve drunk too much in SpringFestival?:diablo:[/QUOTE]
not drunk enough to know that two of those pictures are of unfinished aircraft. Perhaps you don’t know the difference between a demo and an operational aircraft.
I’m not making any claim on the J-10 or J-11. So if you want to attack Plawolf’s opinion then please leave me out.
no one was talking to you to begin with…
Are you sure about the better top speed?
DSI has advantages because it reduces weight and complexity. But as far as I can tell, it’s actually worse for supersonic performance because not all of the boundary layer air is prevented from entering the intake. PAK-FA not having DSI hints at this direction.
See this quote from http://www.codeonemagazine.com/article.html?item_id=58
indeed it seems most of the non-Chinese fighter projects are no longer using DSI
Blue team alway have an edge in the games given the fact that CAF expect USAF to be more technologically advanced than its average units. Red teams are there to have their butt handed to them by the blue units and to learn from dissimilar training. Nothing new here…
you are okay, you didn’t make such a claim. cannot say the same about your compatriots such as this loony in this thread
http://forum.keypublishing.com/showpost.php?p=1217633&postcount=37
There are tons of things out there that could be cut in order to reduce taxes…
so what would you like see cut?
and check out this thread since its related to you
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=122380
IAF thinks HTT-40 sucks don’t want it. Thinks HJT-36 also sucks because of its Russian Engine
http://livefist.blogspot.com/2013/02/iaf-furious-over-hals-star-trainer.html
can’t they re-engine it with a French alternative?
It´s a luxury to have aerobatics teams….
What’s your point?
you must like paying taxes. if so its no problem at all.
Very interesting, now you have to move to the F-18 series.
well sherlock, in case it wasn’t obvious, even the F-18 which is the same class of multi-functional aircraft as you said, also needs fuel tanks to carry its bombs duh. you think your pictures of loaded Fulcrums will go anywhere with out fuel?
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Generally, A country will purchase more fighters than attackers and bombers, I don’t think you are such stupid to be confused with this. India ordered slightly more MIG-29 than Mirage 2000. This is the one of reason for your question.
that was not my question and it wasn’t even a question it was a statement. Do you not understand?
The deployment will be another aspect. Since the ferry range for MiG-29 will be significantly longer than MIRAGE2000, the Mirage 2000 will naturally be used for interdiction more than air-superiority.
no it does not, the Mirage has higher ferry range
BTW, I can not recognize the aircraft in those image below, could you help to identify them?:p
all of those aircraft except two of them are prototype airplanes that never got developed. the other two are MiGs that used up almost all of its pylons for fuel tanks, no space for bombs
Have you checked it today? repairs have been done and so far things are ok?
Mr. Griffin,
its now only updating the posts from today but all the ones over the weekend are still not updated on the index. scroll to the earlier threads
Just merge, I would prefer Roman Numerals as it goes with the old thread…
hey mods, some one merge mines and giga’s thread together.
Seems like Tu-204SM commercial future is not good
The President of the United Aircraft Corporation sees no commercial future in the Tu-204
The President of the United Aircraft Corporation (UAC), Mikhail Pogosyan, does not see a future in commercial Tu-204.
According to Pogosyan, the Tu-204 over a dozen modifications, but “there is no mass production of the aircraft.” “For 20 years, produced 50 Tu-204. 2-3 a year. Is there a future for this aircraft? I see no prospect of custom-made product,” – he said at the air show “Aero India 2013”.
OAK president explained that the only customer of this type of aircraft is the Office of Presidential Affairs. “In order to support programs such as the Tu-204, Il-96 needs a government order – quoted Pogosyan ITAR-TASS said. – Private civilian market for these aircraft do not have.”
lol of course we knew it wasn’t going to do well. its already a dated design no matter how they try to improve it and even its western counterpart, the 757 is being phased out already.
best to invest
MS-21.
Seems like Tu-204SM commercial future is not good
The President of the United Aircraft Corporation sees no commercial future in the Tu-204
The President of the United Aircraft Corporation (UAC), Mikhail Pogosyan, does not see a future in commercial Tu-204.
According to Pogosyan, the Tu-204 over a dozen modifications, but “there is no mass production of the aircraft.” “For 20 years, produced 50 Tu-204. 2-3 a year. Is there a future for this aircraft? I see no prospect of custom-made product,” – he said at the air show “Aero India 2013”.
OAK president explained that the only customer of this type of aircraft is the Office of Presidential Affairs. “In order to support programs such as the Tu-204, Il-96 needs a government order – quoted Pogosyan ITAR-TASS said. – Private civilian market for these aircraft do not have.”
lol of course we knew it wasn’t going to do well. its already a dated design no matter how they try to improve it and even its western counterpart, the 757 is being phased out already.
best to invest
MS-21.
Which kind of goes to show that it does what Pilatus set out to make it do – be capable of fulfilling both basic and advanced training roles. That said, I think most airforces conduct basic training of ab initio candidates on piston powered aircraft (for the US I believe that is a Cessna model, not sure which, in South Korea it’s the Il-103 and many others, including the UK, use the Grob G115/120).
so if the PC-21 can be for basic and advance trainer why not use it for both
so instead of
PC-21 -> M-346 -> fighter
or
PC-7 -> PC-21 -> fighter
PC-21 -> PC-21 -> fighter