Thanks everyone for the conversation, I can confirm that the two boys in 1944 witnessed a number of crashes from their favourite spot on top of a pill box at Finchingfield, then they would ride there bikes to the crash area. 71 years later those memories merge but it would seem that it’s a 90% + reasoning this is from Dry Gulcher and will go to Ridgewell to add to the other pieces of that wreckage and story.
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Thanks to both for the replies, I wonder if they picked this up from the A20 Havoc crash? In that case it has a special place in the Wethersfield Museum. I have A20 experts who have and rebuilding A20s in the USA. And I also have contact with the surviving 416th men maybe they will recognise it.
The other possibility these boys would have visited the B17 crash site in Shalford so will ask some B17 people at Ridgewell.
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Mike there is a full picture I the report in the link posted by Ross McNeil earlier. It may be better quality as this was cut and pasted from that.
Interesting finds having read the Wessex Report in 2011 and hoping for a follow up to it on the Thames Estuary, I wait in excited anticipation.
I would love to see a graphic of all the Buxey Sand wrecks and better aerial photos.
Thanks Mike, they did say in the report they think it’s German, I just keeping hoping something will turn up to help prove my position error theory.
The 416th definitely lost one Havoc in the bay in addition to Cramsie’s. A plane returning to Wethersfield from a mission with bombs onboard was told by Col. Mace not to land, but to take the plane back out over the Bay and drop the bombs there. The pilot didn’t have enough gas. Mace told him to take it over water and bail out. He did and the plane went down in the general area of the dredging. The pilot was picked up by air/sea rescue, the gunners had bailed out over land. That was before they learned that landing with bombs aboard was safe enough.
Denis, hopefully they kept some bits and pieces that we can examine.
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Thanks Denis,
There is a wreck out there near the JU bits I found, at first the people who found it said it was American through a 3rd party that story changed when they discovered I was MOD Police and suspect they have taken parts from it.
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So who do I contact to try and get them to consider it could have come from 699 as it was trying to get to Bradwell Bay?
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A Havoc propellor similar in size to a JU
But if you don’t think there is one there then you will not consider it!
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43-9699 was actually last seen by an eye witness 5 miles south of this spot flying North at 400ft with one engine shot out and on fire since leaving Hazebrook in France.
Of course it’s officially recorded as being 40 miles away because someone wrote 50 instead of 05.
Thanks for posting the link Ross.
It seems that there are many JU88’s in the Thames Estuary not least on Buxey Sand. I hope to visit the sand bank in 2016 to continue the search for 43-9699 Bill Cramsies A20 Havoc from RAF Wethersfield MIA with his crew Sgts Jack Steward and Charles Henshaw.
In the mean time I have been developing the RAF Wethersfield Museum, interesting Stirling photos and a part from a crashed Hurricane?? In the last couple of weeks. I will post them in a new thread.