You want to count the number of pylons?:rolleyes:Here you go….
Four under each wing, not five AFAIK…
So which Mig-29 variant is plummed for four wing wet stations, only Mig-29K?
refilling Mig-29M2….
I find it interesting that when looking back at post #322, it states that only Iraqi MiG-29’s were fitted with mid-wing R-27 capability, but the photo on the left is clearly a Russian MiG-29 with mid-wing (& inboard) R-27R’s.
I wonder where the truth lies. On paper it would seem to be an easy thing for the Fulcrum to carry four R-27’s although I suppose it would all be a software/radar compatibility issue more than any physical limitations.
The Russian Mig-29 with two R-27R under left wing in post #322 is not a baseline izd.9.12/ 9.13, one can clearly see that…;) It is a RSK Mig own test aircraft demonstrating upgraded missile capability for Mig-29 users…In order to fit the R-27R to mid-wing pylon, it is necessary to modify electrical wiring leading to mid-wing attachment point, the SUV weapon control system and to add a feed horn to provide radar signal for the R-27R SARH head, not to mention the distance between mid-wing points do not allow the APU-470 missile launch rail to be attached mechanically, normally. True is that I`ve never seen this R-27R config used on any VVS or export Mig-29, except Iraqi ones, but you can prove me wrong, looking forward to it.
Having spent billions on developing and operationally using LO and VLO assets like the F-117, B-2 etc the US defense industry is bound to have learned lessons which could not have been learnt just by theorizing such designs so they would have some edge as far as the final product is concerned due to their vast experience.
In theory I agree that the US should have the upper hand throughout this game in using LO and VLO designs, but in today`s world it is possible to buy the knowledge, experience and technology leading to match the US without having spent half a century developing LO and VLO designs. Well, another lesson learned for the US do not you think?…
http://fotografersha.livejournal.com/355221.html
Excellent Irkut photos!
Su-30SM and Yak!
you made my day, thanks, finally canarded Flankers…my personal no.1:cool:
I am quite sure you know the details about Slovak AF better but aren’t these MiGs you have posted the non-export 9.12 examples from Soviet stocks?
They were from last batches produced in 1990 and rotting on stocks at RSK Lukhovitsy plant, because Russian VVS lost interest on the Mig-29 quickly after the Soviet Union collapsed. I don`t know how many airframes were expected to be delivered to the VVS, but it`s true that last Migs-29 delivered to Slovak AF(1993-1996) had red stars insignias painted. If you check the Mig-29 production list from Yefim Gordon book, you can see that Slovakian, Malaysian and Bangladesh Migs-29 were the last izd.9.12 produced, apparently all featuring inner wet pylons for the underwing EFT. These izd.9.12 capable of carrying EFT you can easily distinguish by checking the wing underside for strenghtening patch applied between the first and the second pylon attachment point with filler neck clearly visible from below….
9.12A and 9.12B export models did not have wet wing pylons and the only drop tank they could carry was a bag on the underfuselage pylon. Germans had to modify their Fulcrums at EADS/WTD61 for the use of underwing tanks.:
to say it more precisely the 9.12(A or B) were capable of that since batches produced in 1990….
And when inner wing pylons are used for DT, MiG-29 couldn’t carry any BVR missiles. .
There was a modification allowing mid underwing pylon to carry APU-470 for the BVR R-27R while the inner one fitted with wing EFT, though have seen only Iraqi Mig-29B modified with that….:confused:
What about it? They are not really rivets, they are screws. They are supposed to opened. You can’t see the actual rivets.
http://www.jber.af.mil/shared/media/photodb/photos/080507-F-7169B-009.jpg
F-35 for instance has many many thousands of rivets in just one wing.
More likely those are quick release fasteners, not screws, how much time he`d spent to remove the quickaccess panel when unscrewing 100+ screws then? Of course countersunk rivets are not seen on the aircraft surface skin, as already written they are covered by a thick layer of paint/ram paint. PAK-FA would look the same way, but I wonder when KNAAPO will finally decide to paint at least one airframe with a RAM paint, they already have four aircrafts flying, how many static airframes are there? Is it strange why not even one T-50 airframe was not dedicated for any RCS testing ??…:confused: well, maybe bcs there are still parts of the fuselage needing redesign in order the RAM paint having any significance.
Sorry about dragging this up from the past, but I have to agree – IMHO the Su-34 should have been cancelled. While the media claims may have been exaggerated,………
To me it is more interesting to speculate what kind of pains those Su-34 are going through. I`m just one of those technical kind of guys, not a Big-picture thinker as you seems to be, never bothered what the Russian VVS could achieve by cancelling the Su-34 while investing into Su-30 multirole, I`m just thinking it is a beautiful aircraft and it deserves to live and fly….:D so keeping fingers crossed for NAPO to fix those issues ASAP.
and T-50 uses STVG-117 air&gas powered starter and VSU-117 GTDE
thanks, I ran it through google, it came out that it is similar to the GTDE, assumingly more powerfull and reliable, but now they call it STarterVozdushnoGazovyj STVG-117. Each engine should have one STVG-117 and the VSU-117 is placed between engines with exhaust port near starboard engine judging from T-50 top-side photos. Anyway, what are those other rectangular vents for….guessing air2air radiators cooler exhausts?
I have read that the Al-31’s use electric start, which wouldn’t explain the steam. It’s normal for a puff of steam out the tail as the condensate is pushed out on startup. It’s pretty easy to see the smoke from a cartridge start.
Well, that is not entirely true. The Al-31(its clones) doesnt use electric start, the APU turbine starter (GTDE) which is top engine mounted is started by a small electric motor which is a part of the APU. Then the APU is used to spin-up the Al-31 engine. Hope you understand.
Turbine starter GTDE on the AL-31
http://koavia.com/e_gtde.htm
electric motor ST-115V
http://www.sepo.ru/catalog/avia/els/st-115a/
Same thinking guys, probably the right engine APU, the T-50 uses electric ground source to start up APU, the electric cable is still attached during the sequence. I think there was not need to defrost the aircraft, guessing temperature at least -20deg C, otherwise the ground personal would have been wearing t-shirts….:)
so, PAK-FA experts, what is the smoke column released from the aircraft spine?..:) check time….0:20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTbFGWdklps
They used to use “h”:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transliteration_of_Russian_into_English#Transliteration_tableI think the idea behind “kh” is to emphasise that the Russian “h” sound is more strongly voiced than in English.
What really perplexes me is the Russian practice of substituting “g” (“г”) for “h” in lots of words adopted from other European languages.
they do not have “h”, therefore they write “говно – govno” instead of “hovno”….:D, they have “x” what is the “kh” or “ch”…..