You can not see it blocking it but you can imagine that it would be in the way.
you cant be serious buddy, ever heard about the angle of attack?
What is strange? The part rotates and blocks the air from going into the intakes but there are holes in the side of the intakes where air can go in instead and avoiding the part.
Any chance you could provide in-flight picture of the T-50 where “those rotating parts are blocking air intakes”?
Please do not be angry with me, but the article named “Sukhoi T-50 / PAK FA – official patent analysis” is on a โknowledge levelโ of a teenage boy, not very informative at all. Moreover, I was surprised by the number of weird comments inside the article, e.g. “These rotary parts shade the main engine inlets but there are auxiliary inlets at the sidewalls of the inlet tunnels where air can flow in avoiding restrictions.” ๐ฎ
But what APU does the Su-35S use then?
It does have a powerfull radar and optical sensor systems as well?
We can already assume that both GTDE-117 remained to spin up the 117S engines and the new APU TA14-130-35 producing AC electric power 115/200V installed somewhere between the engines. There seems to be a large exhaust added on, check pictures below. The question I`m wondering about, was really the Su-34 engine section overfilled with another aggregates when compared to the Su-35, making the tail boom only place to install the new APU? So far it seems…
As i can recall.. the conclusion from that debate was that the Su-34 engine plating coverage was some additional Armour.
In case any CAS mission profile if needed.
Although it is relative light Armouring we are talking about here. Not in the same leauge as Su-25 standard.
The Su-34 engine nacelles have alodined aluminium skin structure which has to be painted with paint(in contrary to titanium alloys on the Su-27 nacelles which were left unpainted). That`s all, no additional armour, where have you read this mate? ๐ฎ
I hear you on the dull NATO grey, but that hideous blue is just completely uncalled for – much too high a price to pay IMHO ๐
The “hideous” blue on the belly is doing a good job blending the aircraft contours when flying high in blue sky, what is more a concern to me is the glossy paint used on a fighter bomber a/c reflecting sun on long distance.
Should have corrected my previous statements regarding the new APU installation before, but since this first picture of the new Su-34 top side appeared on the internet, could be the right time to do it now.
Previously I assumed that both GTDE-117 turbine starters and power generators have been removed from the Su-34 and the new more powerfull APU was installed instead.
I was wrong, the GTDE-117 turbine starters remained in order to spin up the Al-31 engines, bcs you can clearly see their exhaust ports in front of the engine nacelles. So far the whole Su-27/30/34/35 family is using the same GTDE-117 installation. Worth mentioning is that the GTDE-117 has an independent regime called “Energouzel” in which when working on the ground generates electric power to feed on-board equipment during functional tests. True is that it is was found insufficient from the start and especially in case of the Su-34 with larger avionics bays with more thirsty equipment installed, requirements for electrical consumption and cooling raised when performing ground tests.
They installed third APU the TA14-130-35 turbine engine in the tail boom which is used to generate electric power only, also feeding new air-conditioning unit inside the fuselage.
This modification enabled them to get rid of an old air-conditioning system consisting among others, of two air to air radiators installed between frame 36-37 with their exhaust nozzles pointed down on both sides of engine nacelles. This is one of major external difference visible excluding the new Su-34 darkgrey/blue camouflage.:)
yess!. the top color and the russian sky blue simply dont match!. ๐ก
yess! whoever invented the scheme must be shot in public for the destruction of beauty of asset of the people. ๐ก
Im starting to like the paint scheme, it looks cool indeed, just anything to avoid the dull grey NATO camouflage…:D
It’s a weird color for sure under different lighting. Looks almost dark lilac under some conditions.
Will be intersting what colors the next batch comes in at, the same brownish-purple, or a more standard grey.
it is not weird, it is just glossy….;)
Anyone have any links to some good data on the Su-25’s various weapons pylons?
For example…can four 100-kg bombs on MER’s be fitted to all eight of the main underwing stations? (Pylons 1 & 10 of course being the AAM pylons…)
anything else?
As I understand, these figures come from the same source, the manufacturer UOMZ so certainly I assume that they consistently publish them. If 60kg is just the weight of the mono block of 13SM-1 so 200kg cor-relatively is weight of mono block of OLS-52Sh, excluding data processor, etc. Apparently Su-30’s nose is much bigger than Mig-29/-35’s nose so Su-30 can equipment bigger, heavier, more complicated and more functional optronic system (OLSD-52) than Mig-29/-35’s (13SM-1).
Ok, but what about the OLS for the SU-35, weights only 71kg? aint that weird either ๐ Does it mean the OLS for Su-35 cant guide A2G missiles?
http://uomz.ru/eng/index.php?page=products&pid=100175
Those numbers are tricky things…could be you are right too.:D
With me, this is not weir. Their function and abilities are up to the limited weight and volume of each aircraft that they are installed in:
13SM-1 (Mig-29/-35):
[INDENT]- Weight: 60kg[/INDENT]
[INDENT]- Dimension: 787ั 412ั 386 mm[/INDENT]OLS 52Sh (Su-30):
[INDENT]- Weight: 200kg[/INDENT]
[INDENT]- Dimension: 841x916x575 mm[/INDENT]Apparently, OLS-52Sh on Su-30 is much heavier and bigger than 13SM-1 partly due to it features more the function “Laser illumination” to guide missile.
This “laser illumination” is not light if we compare to Kylon-PS system that is installed in Su-17M3/M4. Kylon-Ps with abilities to measure distance and guide missile weights 82kg, 22kg heavier than 13SM-1 http://uomz.ru/eng/index.php?page=products&pid=100066
Those weight figures are written without context, you have to distinguish between the mass of the whole set and mass of the OLS monoblock only. Apparently the 200kg weights the whole set(with several blocks installed in fuselage) whereas the OLS monoblock weights about 65-75kg. Nothing to do with the function “Laser illumination” to guide a missile.
An example, doesnt matter it is not from UOMZ…i hope you agree.
IMO, the function to guide missile is VERY GOOD & UNIQUE selling point that UOMZ would utilize to advertise and market instead.
Generally the “laser designator” can:
– Have only the ability to measure the distance.
– Or have both abilities to measure the distance and guide missile.
In this case of 13SM-1, apparently it doesn’t have the ability to guide missile and that is the reason UOMZ don’t mention this function in their specification of 13SM-1.
hmm, dont argue with you, but when reading the official UOMZ product leaflet found here http://uomz.ru/download/Katalog_spec_RUS_ENG_web.pdf you will notice that only the OLS-30I for Su-30 familly a/c has the feature mentioned…
illumination of ground targets for aiming of the guided laser seeker missiles;
not mentioned in the newest OLS for SU-35 or Mig-35, ain`t that weird? My understanding is that while you have the ability to measure the distance,then target designation is only a matter of A2G missile weapon implementation into the SUV.
http://uomz.ru/eng/index.php?page=products&pid=100178
UOMZ don’t mention that 13SM-1 CAN GUIDE laser-guided missiles. Its function are just “acquisition and autotracking of ground targets along, and measurement of range to them”. That I mean is the laser designator that CAN GUIDE missiles in stead of just “measurement of range”.
This is not important for this “laser designator” if this Ugroza is not available now. Currently It CAN GUIDE available missiles such as Kh-25L, Kh-29L, Kh-38L, etc.
but some sentences below is writen:
The system includes:
scanning thermal location finder;
thermal channel for recognition of air and ground targets in day time;
multimode laser range finder-target designator of air and ground target;
FOV stabilization system;
integrated control system for on-line estimation of accuracy of channel
in the meaning, a combined range finder and target designator system for missiles either A2A and A2G, not sure which one uses the Mig-35, but I think both will have identical features.
With me, that looks like a base for another optronic system that will be installed in the space left by IFR probe. That should be a FLIR or a laser designator or combination of both FLIR & laser disignator for A-2-G laser guided Ugroza-rockets & missiles.
do not understand, why installing another FLIR or a laser designator system when there already is the 13SM-1 and why especially for the A2G laser guided Ugroza-rocket pod? Is it some kind of future weapon?
http://uomz.ru/eng/index.php?page=products&pid=100178
Does anyone have knowledge what happened to Sukhois-27 of PrideAircraft, they just disappeared, like they never even existed. Now, their website is showing “Both of these aircraft have been SOLD and are no longer available.” I wonder where they are flying nowadays? Thanks
http://www.prideaircraft.com/flanker.htm