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  • in reply to: Black anti glare panels.. #2341018
    martinez
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    when you guys switch to the Akzo paint, will you remove the black stripe?

    The grey PPG topcoat on our Mig is very matt with gloss level under nr. 5 on the standard 60 degree glossmeter, in principle the black stripe is useless but on the other side it fits perfectly to the camouflage, so it will stay whether we switch to Akzo or not.
    BTW. the same PPG high solid paint is used for RAF Typhoons lacking the black stripe at all. These days also RSK Mig itself paints its Migs-29 for foreign customers with Akzo Nobel HF A132 or HF A133 topcoats, not to mention the Strizhi(the Swifts) aerobatics group with Migs-29 have been painted with glossy Akzo Nobel as well.
    Some more pics from the painting proccess….
    http://deton.lietadla.com/28-105/img_0468.jpg
    http://deton.lietadla.com/28-105/img_0491.jpg
    http://deton.lietadla.com/28-105/img_0530.jpg
    http://deton.lietadla.com/28-105/img_0532.jpg

    in reply to: China's upcoming 5th G fighter–J-20 prototype is ready #2341325
    martinez
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    Common guys, I want to see pictures of the J-20 before Christmas Eve, please….:)

    in reply to: what aircraft can be considered over engineered? #2341346
    martinez
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    But the F-22 is in operational use –

    and it is turning to be the disaster, bcs it was once “too big to fail” and at what costs they keep it operational? To me a book case of over engineered aircraft.

    in reply to: Black anti glare panels.. #2341350
    martinez
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    Painting the antiglare black stripe on the Mig-29.

    http://deton.lietadla.com/28-105/img_0394.jpg
    http://deton.lietadla.com/28-105/img_0402.jpg
    http://deton.lietadla.com/28-105/img_8215.jpg

    in reply to: what aircraft can be considered over engineered? #2341430
    martinez
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    I suppose overengineered could mean aircraft designed to overly demanding requirements which result in a final product too complex and expensive for operational use. Many of the famous cancelled aircraft such as TSR2, XB-70 and Avro Arrow would probably meet this description.

    It fits to the F-22 as well, do not you think?

    in reply to: F-35 and F-22 corrosion issues highlighted by GAO #2342583
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    a basic issue of trapped water in cracks, crevices and bond lines where it can not evaporate — aluminum turns into aluminum oxide, iron into iron oxide, Etc.

    Of course humidity and wet atmosphere is playing important factor in galvanic corrosion as well, but doesnt it sound a little bit stupid when saying now to drill more holes into the hull to prevent corrosion, especially in case of the F-22 a 350 million dollar plane. Hail to the Lockheed Martin…:diablo:

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    GAO says that “corrosion of the aluminum skin panels on the F-22 was first observed in spring 2005, less than 6 months after the Air Force first introduced the aircraft to a severe environment,” and two years later, “by October 2007, a total of 534 instances of corrosion were documented, and corrosion in the substructure was becoming prevalent.” GAO notes that the government is paying $228 million to make F-22 corrosion-related repairs and retrofits through 2016.”

    in reply to: F-35 and F-22 corrosion issues highlighted by GAO #2342596
    martinez
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    http://www.powerofaluminium.com/html/corrosion_resistance.htm

    Some information on Ali and galvanic corrosion.

    It may not be the composite that is causing the galvanic corrosion.

    It could easily be some other material (although i am sure LM would use Ti aerospace spec’d nuts and bolts).

    Thanks matt, it just came to my mind when reading “interaction with stealth materials”, what tells me to exclude any kind of metal parts, but do not argue you could be right as well. There is plenty of stuff around on google.com when searching for interactions between Aluminum and carbon composites, also in summer this year I participated on the NATO lecture series AVT-156 “Battle damage repair techniques and procedures on Air vehicles” learning a lot of this stuff.

    in reply to: F-35 and F-22 corrosion issues highlighted by GAO #2342753
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    Full report on above defense aerospace site…

    Suprised that they went for non chromated primers on Aluminium I guess maybe they thought the internal sections will not retain moisture for long enough to cause a problem or have enough moisture to be an issue (this is obviously in contect of all the HS&E issues with chromated paints and primers)…

    The final statement “lackadaisical” although seems to give a emotional summary, there is no retort from LM as to why they chose the same primer system for the F-35 and infact if they had addressed the root cause for corrosion. From actually looking at the document it is evident that they have infact tried to address the root causes of the corrosion.
    And some good stuff here

    I read this article where I found this sentence.
    After being deployed, F-22 jets “indicated corrosion issues resulting from interaction” with stealth materials used to hide the aircraft from enemy radar, Lockheed spokesman Christopher McGee said in an e-mail.
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-12-16/lockheed-s-f-22-jets-corroding-need-228-million-in-repairs.html

    To me it sounds like a galvanic corrosion issues between the aluminum panels and various carbon based composite parts, as well as it might be that the non-chromated primer is not full filling the job to protect the anodized aluminium. Do not be angry with me, but such news gives me satisfaction bcs I`ve claimed years the F-22 will be the maintenance nightmare despite the LM propaganda telling about less maintenance hours than its fighter predecessors.

    in reply to: Black anti glare panels.. #2342812
    martinez
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    1. When did the US stop using it?

    2. Why do some Russian aircraft use it, while others stopped?

    No brainer at all, it only depends whether you are using mat or gloss topcoats. With glossy paint applied the antiglare stripe is a must, with mat or semimat paints it is just an option to fit the camouflage design. Hungarian Migs-29 are painted with Akzo Nobel HF A mat paint, Polish with the same brand mat and semi mat. We painted Migs-29 with the PPG CA high solid mat and semimat paints so far, but in the future we`ll switch to Akzo as well.

    http://www.airplane-pictures.net/images/uploaded-images/2009-11/27/71051.jpg

    in reply to: NK-32 vs NK-321 engines (Tu-160) #2359303
    martinez
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    Hi, I’m a bit confused about naming of Kuznetsov’s NK-32 engines. I’m desperately searching for the answer, but with every other new source the situation is even more confused. Sources are often mixing NK-32, NK-321, NK-32-1, NK-32 Phase I/II, NK-321 Phase I/II to
    Well, as you can see, the information are very very confused – both on amateur’s webs and official producer’s websites. Is simple NK-32 just the early developement version? Are all the serial engines NK-321? And what about the different Phases. Is NK-321 equivalent to NK-32-I or how is it? I went through many online newspapers articles and they all are mixing NK-32, NK-321 etc………………….
    Please help or redirect me to some other sources, thanks.

    As I understand, the NK-32 engine is the original one used with serial produced Tu-160, whereas the NK-321 is a modification of old NK-32 used with the TU-144LL for the first time in 1996. My source is the book “Dvigateli 1944-2000”. Of course the the NK-321 engine could have its own modifications already.
    Do not worry about that, lot of people are still confusing naming of more ordinary engines like the R13F-300 with the R13-300.

    in reply to: Sukhoi Su-7 "7907" #1104328
    martinez
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    Hi All,

    sorrry ive not given any updates, I have no access to the internet 🙁

    i am using a friends laptop , i am still gathering info on the Su-7
    will tell more when i am back online .Martinez PM sent 🙂

    replied, check PM.

    Martinez

    in reply to: Russian Aviation News – Часть 3! #2399988
    martinez
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    Found a leaflet about the Tu-22 modernization.

    in reply to: PAK-FA Saga Episode 14 #2407257
    martinez
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    Read up on how RAM works.

    Thanks for the explanation, it makes a bit sense now. I should read wikipedia before asking…:) How did they manage to achieve equal RAM paint thickness(crucial for the RF cancelation) over the whole a/c surface? Perhaps with the robotic painting system I read about sometimes ago, then the grey top-coat could by applied manually also.
    Anyway, saying that stripped down F-22 is about one tonne and half lighter sound really strange…

    M

    in reply to: PAK-FA Saga Episode 14 #2407426
    martinez
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    RAM is much thicker than 0.03-0.04 mm by over an order of magnitude. The high metallic content of RAM can easily add 1.5 tons to a Flanker.

    When talking conventional aircraft paint systems consisting of etch primer, intermediate primer and topcoat, where the total film thickness varies between 0,1-0,15mm, it adds cca. 55 kilograms of weight when painting our Mig-29 aircrafts. You can easily estimate the weight for the Su-35 which is almost twice as much surface as the Mig-29, so let say up to 100kg of additional weight. I seriously doubt that the conductive thin RAM layer applied over the primer(Akzo Nobel, PPG stealth coatings with thickness of several microns adding such a tremendeos weight as you stated before. I think the 1.5 tons is quite an overshoot, unless you are not talking RAM coatings only.

    M

    martinez
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    But I need the schematic draw in which part I need to remove the mounting..
    I just know that there are 5 mountings in specific bulkhead..
    But I need the the drawing..
    Thanks for the explanation, though..

    The wing is attached to the fuselage with help of five wing hinges to frames nr. 13,16,22,25 and 28. There is one bolt with diameter ø8mm on the frame nr. 13, two bolts ø22mm and one ø16mm on the frame nr. 16, two bolts ø30mm on the frame nr.22, one bolt ø18mm on frame nr.25 and one horizontal bolt ø12mm on the frame nr.28. See also attached picture. BTW. Donno21 described the whole procedure nicely, no big deal.

    Any chance to see your 21F?

    Regards
    M

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