The US and Nato forces aren’t the only ones that have knocked the Mig-29 out of the sky. The ethiopan-Eritrean war saw them get hammered by Su-27s, and not too long ago Israeli F-15s downed 2 Syrian Mig-29s.
Is it still true that the Mig-29s only air-to-air victory was the private O-2 off the coast of cuba?
Meanwhile, the F-16 has downed even the mighty Mig-25.
The A-10 (serial 81-067) over Kosovo didn’t lose the engine, but just the engine nacelle. The nacelle is now on display in a Yugoslav Musuem. It was repaired in Macedonia and rejoined its unit in Italy.
TJ
My Mistake. Wasn’t one of those Yugoslav sites (you know the ones, claiming hundreds of NATo planes destroyed) calling that nacelle evidence of an A-10 being completely shot down?
There was a B-52 back in ODS that got hit twice in the same wing by SAMs on the same mission, but managed to make it back.
Back then spare parts was a major problem. I remeber vividly seeing the USMC during a journalism piece showing off their Hueys and Cobras that they were picking clean at the base to keep their other birds flying. I would guess that a very heavily damaged A-10 might have become a donor plane as well. A few did however get repaired. They also showed the value of the undercarriage not fully retracting into the wing pods when some came in for belly landings.
Aye, the E-8 and C-18 fleets are second-hand aircraft, but it could be argued that the stored 707s and 720s at AMARC were used for spares for them too. I guess you could even say that about the E-6s too.
An interesting note, the average number of hours on the KC-135 fleet is about 17,000. The latest review says that they can keep going to 35,000 hours. The main problem is that the TF-33 engines are getting pretty unreliable (no matter how many sparesd they have). An E-8 lost an engine over Baghdad a little while back, I think it may have caused it to cut its mission short.
The TF-33 is getting some pretty heavy useage lately, on the B-52, KC-135, E-3, E-8, and the few C-141s that are still flying around.
Edit: I meant E-8 not E-6, we all know those have the CFM-56 powerplant.
The 707s were not bought just for the engines. The KC-135 fleet (and C-137, E-3, E-8, TC-18 fleet too) used pylons, tailplanes, doors, fuselage panels, and landing gears too.
Actually, those photos ARE of Cpt. Kim Campbell’s Warthog.
There are also some good photos of an A-10 that lost an entire engine over Kosovo, but managed to get flown to a base just fine. Interesting to see a grey A-10 later with a green replacement engine.
At least some of the AN-12s are being flown in there from Dubai by DHL. heard rumors that they may be bringing in some 727s soon too.
That’s a TU-154 in the background (as evidenced by the 6 wheel maingear bogies) with some sort of belly pack.
Kind of surprised AH-64D didn’t make it to the short list, was it considered?(stupid question). If If Eurocopter offer the same offset deal they offered Australia, then the TIGER would be a good chance I think. Will politics win out again and they go with the AH-1Z?
Come now, you make it seem that the only reason that the US products would ever be chosen is because of political reasons.
What platforms are being offered by each company specifically?
My opinion: DPRKAF Airforce-One
http://www.spacewar.com/2004/040709121144.gps12bhh.html
Nah, Kim Jong Il doesn’t fly. He takes a special train everywhere he goes (Including China and Russia).
I think this may be related to the 2 ROKAF C-130s mentioned in the other thread. Getting something from the south, but the south not letting the IL-76 fly in to get it, and the North not letting the C-130s flly in to deliver it, so thy meet on “neutral” territory.
The YF-12A had 3 tail fins, if you count the folding center ventral fin. Other than that, maybe the improved crusader that lost out to the F4H-1. Those were ventral fins too, however retracting because of their huge size. I wouldn’t count the strakes on the F-8 or F-16 as tailfins though, too small.
Interesting to see the different configurations of the JCM there.
The TOW-2 family is seeing extensive use in Iraq right now as it is cheaper than the Hellfire, yet still fairly accurate and has a larger warhead than the Javelin. It seems to be the preferred method of precision strike on a building. I just visited Rock Island Arsenal this weekend, and their museum had a good photo collection from the ongoing conflict. There were quite a few shots of the USMC using the TOW in action, including TOW-2 teams and the Stryker-TOW combination. You even see quite a few used in high profile operations (the standoff to get Uday and Qsay) mounted on Humvees.
The main questions I have are:
1) What is the approximate inventory of TOW in US arsenals.
1b) about how many have been used lately
and
2) what is the cost per round of Hellfire, JCM, Brimstone, TOW-2(a or b), and Javelin?
Just off the web, looks like a Chinese J-7 crashed, killing a child on the ground.
If you want, here are f-16 w/os by a/f. I count airframes that crash and are relegated to instructional airframes or ground trainers as w/o, as they aren’t used for combat sorties anymore.
Italy: 1
Belgium: 33
Egypt: 15
Venezuela: 3
Greece: 5
Israel: 24
Pakistan: 8-10
Portugal: 1
Bahrain: 1
Denmark: 9
Jordan: 1
Netherlands: 38
Norway: 17
Taiwan: 4
South Korea: 4
Singapore: 3
Indonesia: 2
Turkey: 13
USAF: 307
USN: 2
So, about 491 writeoffs so far since 1979.
However the IAF DOES use M2ks. I only see 3 crashes of M2k in IAF service, the last one in 1994. To add fuel to the fire, I have 10 records of PAF F-16 losses, the last in 1995. Do we really have to count teh one that hit the wild boar on the runway in Sargodha (1987)?