As far as I am aware the Met Research Flight (MRF) never operated a Fortress.
The High Altitude Flight (HAL) operated:
Fortress 2A FK192 from 1943-45 SOC 18 Sep 45
Fortress 1 AN531 from 1944-45 SOC 17 Jan 45
HTH
Resmoroh
Hi,
I’m only quoting what I recall Jim’s telling me at the time – mind you, it WAS around 48 years ago!;)
I wonder what she was used for then…?
cheers
Alan
I can offer this one, taken somewhat earlier, of HB778, which I think was also Met flight’s. The occasion was a colleague’s first ‘flip’ as he called it. I believe Jim (Williams) was working in the tower at the time. I met him much later at Fleet UDC.
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American designed and built, judging by the N number and it surroundings
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Planemike, I’d take you to task on that statement – what about my mate’s U.S.-registered MiG-15 – but I know what you mean.;)
But what an amazing design for a 70-year-old eh! Looks almost more modern than the one I thought it might be. The paint scheme does a lot for it in that respect.
cheers
Alan
Looks like an Alaparma Baldo – is it?
cheers
Alan
No more Chippies?
Here’s G-AOSO posing as WD288 in 1996 when owned by Lord Suffolk and John Hoerner. Location – Charlton Park near Malmesbury, the French ‘chateau’ in ‘Piece of Cake’.
I’d never heard of an Arado 240 – until now! Bit of an ugly brute, isn’t it?
The Arado 240 was developed to carry a new type of power-operated gun turret designed by a consortium of Arado, DVL and Rheinmetall-Borsig. The V3 was the first to be fitted with thee new FA-13 barbettes, mounted either side of the fuselage aft of the cockpit each carrying a 7.9 mm MG 81 machine gun. They were not carried on the first two prototypes because of development problems with the FA-13. However this was nothing compared to instability problems with the aircraft themselves.
The completely redesigned V3 was still not satisfactory and received new ailerons, amongst other mods. In late summer ’41 it was sent to 3./Aufklaerungsgruppe Ob.d.L. based in northern France. The FA-13s were removed and replaced by cameras and it made several recce flights over Britain.
Pre-production went up to V-12 with various engines and armament, but plans for 40 production aircraft to be built by Ago Oschersleben were cancelled by Erhard Milch in December 1942.
A final attempt was made in 1944 to utilize its high performance in the recce role over GB when one aircraft was sent to the special recce flight of the supreme commander of the Luftwaffe in France, but its problematic flight characteristics, and the invasion of France caused its demise. Here’s a 3-view diagram of the A-02 which went to Finland.
brgds
Alan
It seems to me that there was a great failing here; the performance of the Bf109 or Fw190 was surely comparable to the Spitfire, German camera technology was certainly capable, and it is a lot easier to fly over Britain from occupied France than it is to fly to Berlin from Britain.
The Luftwaffe must have been aware what the PR Spitfires were doing (some must have been shot-down and examined); so why didn’t the Germans do the same?
Much of the problem stemmed from the production of Jumos. They were dogged from the start, especially with regard to the crankshafts, which were outsourced from the German Highgrade Steelworks, and often not best quality. Parts were also produced by a Swiss firm, which meant problems in providing foreign funding. Many, if not the majority, of Jumos were in fact produced under licence by Mimo – Mitteldeutsche-Motorenwerke in Taucha near Leipzig, which had been established based on the Auto Union car factory in the early thirties. There was no love lost between Jumo in Dessau and Mimo, with BMW also getting their spoke in. The continuous changes of plans from higher up the ladder, plus the need to produce engines for panzers, bombing raids, possibly sabotage, all resulted in a less than satisfactory output.
I’ve simplified somewhat, but have just got hold of three ‘new’ very detailed books on the subject of German aircraft engine production which I am trying to transform into something useful for the thread!
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Alan
If you meet a piebald horse, wish before you see his tail.
New Forest ProverbNot my proverb mate!:D Happy New Year to one and all!:)
Ha ha…our grandad came from Lyndhurst he did.:)
Alan
such a shame…good luck with the repair!
Hallo everyone, and a Happy New Year all round.
Looking up aerial fire cover I came across this book and thought it might be of interest. The thread is from 2005:
This is a short word to announce the release of the book “L’appui-feu de Baka”. It relates the story of the armed T-6 Harvards of the Belgian Air Force during the period of the independence of Belgian Congo in 1960. It is written by Congo specialist J-P Sonck and myself and should be available in the specialised bookshops.
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The book can be obtained in all specialised bookshops or by making a deposit of €15 + €1.80 (Belgium), or + €5 (Rest of the World) P.P. on account 001-0799131-24 of Daniel Brackx – Molenveld, 74 – B1982 Elewijt/Belgium with the mention “Flight Appui Feu”. (CAUTION – this may no longer apply)
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Alan
…and the people at the aeroport can’t help? It would have been quite a major operation to move her (t: 0549240289)
Bonne Annee!
Alan
I have just found a photo of 240 I took at Toussus on 27 Fev 1987. It was the day before the start of the Paris-Pekin race. The weather was…er…seasonal.
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Alan
The JU86R had the wingspan extended from the 84ft of the P to around 104ft and was fitted with Jumo 207B-3
It pushed the ceiling up to 45,000 ft
Moggy
Moggy,
According to Smith & Kay in German Aircraft of the Second World War, the ceiling aimed at was even higher – 47,230 ft (14,400 m). These were P-1s and P-2s converted into what later were designated R-1s and R-2s with greater wing area, the 1000 hp Jumo you mentioned and increased fuel capacity, not forgetting 4-blade airscrews.
An R-3 was projected to operate at 52000 ft powered by two 1500 hp Jumo 208 diesel engines fed at altitude by a large two-stage supercharger (mounted inside the fuselage and driven by a separate DB605 which had its own supercharger!). It and others remained on paper due to development of the Jumo 208 being abandoned.
cheers
Alan
Yes, that’s a Nord 1002 Pingouin II G-ETME, construction number 274, formerly N108J, F-BFRV and French Air Force.
Used to fly in a desert-type camouflage with code KG+EM
Believe owned by the 108 Flying Group at Wycombe Air Park.
Hope this helps,
Alan
Many thanks for the update, BC.
I have a few photos inherited from a friend and the location doesn’t seem to be Rockcliffe. Can someone help with a location for them. They are from 1994. There’s also a Seabee, a Vampire (058), T-33, and a Canuck.
A Pou-de-Ciel, a Sportsman (Amphibian) and a Mooney Mite (C-GHIY) may be elsewhere, a very garden-like setting.
Here are some sample pics.
Thank you
Alan