RE: war in Irak and the Franco/German resistance
Perhaps b.c of economic interests, and the fact that they don’t want to see a large US influence in the M.E. area.
A neat fact- France sold nuclear technology to both Israel and Iraq.
RE: SCRIPT ERROR!!! AFM site
I agree, what’s going on? Every day the Aviation discussion forum goes down, but the general discussion forum is still up. strange.
RE: SCRIPT ERROR!!! AFM site
I agree, what’s going on? Every day the Aviation discussion forum goes down, but the general discussion forum is still up. strange.
RE: So I guess it’s just a matter of ‘when’ the US is going to war
Well, you originally said that the Chinese government has not released any official figures, and I’m telling you the contrary. If you don’t want to read them, then that’s your problem. If your source, the supposed “my friend’s cousing’ brother’s uncle” who served as general of the such and such, I suppose he went to count every single Chinese body? The war in 1979 and the war in Korea are two very different wars; can’t use one to estimate the number of casualties in the other.
You said that the CCF Army suffered ~ 2.2 million casualties- heck, their army that deployed to Korea didn’t even number that much. How did they suffer over 100% casualties? I think the analogy is similar to the US war in the Balkans- we said that we destroyed hundreds of Serbian tanks, when in reality, it was a few dozen.
RE: So I guess it’s just a matter of ‘when’ the US is going to war
Well, you originally said that the Chinese government has not released any official figures, and I’m telling you the contrary. If you don’t want to read them, then that’s your problem. If your source, the supposed “my friend’s cousing’ brother’s uncle” who served as general of the such and such, I suppose he went to count every single Chinese body? The war in 1979 and the war in Korea are two very different wars; can’t use one to estimate the number of casualties in the other.
You said that the CCF Army suffered ~ 2.2 million casualties- heck, their army that deployed to Korea didn’t even number that much. How did they suffer over 100% casualties? I think the analogy is similar to the US war in the Balkans- we said that we destroyed hundreds of Serbian tanks, when in reality, it was a few dozen.
RE: So I guess it’s just a matter of ‘when’ the US is going to war
Use some logic Vortex- they didn’t suffer 100% casualties, I don’t think any nation has sent in their entire army only to have it wiped out. What is your source?
Mine are from the official casualty list released by the PRC, which has always been open source for anyone who bothered to look. try http://www.pladaily.com.cn for example.
RE: So I guess it’s just a matter of ‘when’ the US is going to war
Use some logic Vortex- they didn’t suffer 100% casualties, I don’t think any nation has sent in their entire army only to have it wiped out. What is your source?
Mine are from the official casualty list released by the PRC, which has always been open source for anyone who bothered to look. try http://www.pladaily.com.cn for example.
RE: So I guess it’s just a matter of ‘when’ the US is going to war
Those are wildly inflated casulaty statistics; considering that the PVA only sent several million troops into Korea, it is unlikely that their entire army was killed there.
Official PVA statistics: 392,600 casualties total
I forget the exact statistics, but here’s the rough breakdown:
KIA ~ 132,000
WIA ~ 238,400
MIA ~ 8,000
Captured ~ 21,400
US KIA ~ 54,229 (inculdes accidental deaths)
WIA ~ 103,248
MIA ~ 8,142
Captured ~ 3,746
Total ~ 169,365
RE: So I guess it’s just a matter of ‘when’ the US is going to war
Those are wildly inflated casulaty statistics; considering that the PVA only sent several million troops into Korea, it is unlikely that their entire army was killed there.
Official PVA statistics: 392,600 casualties total
I forget the exact statistics, but here’s the rough breakdown:
KIA ~ 132,000
WIA ~ 238,400
MIA ~ 8,000
Captured ~ 21,400
US KIA ~ 54,229 (inculdes accidental deaths)
WIA ~ 103,248
MIA ~ 8,142
Captured ~ 3,746
Total ~ 169,365
RE: Pic of Dark Lord Saur-, oops, I mean Bush
[updated:LAST EDITED ON 21-01-03 AT 03:00 AM (GMT)]lighten up a little. I’ll bet ya wouldn’t mind if it were a picture of Clinton.
RE: Pic of Dark Lord Saur-, oops, I mean Bush
[updated:LAST EDITED ON 21-01-03 AT 03:00 AM (GMT)]lighten up a little. I’ll bet ya wouldn’t mind if it were a picture of Clinton.
RE: Please explain!!!…..Is it me?
Move the asylum seekers into the nursing homes and the elderly into the hotels!
RE: Please explain!!!…..Is it me?
Move the asylum seekers into the nursing homes and the elderly into the hotels!
RE: Libya to head UN’s Human Rights Commission
[updated:LAST EDITED ON 20-01-03 AT 10:29 PM (GMT)]While the US may grants its own citizens great personal freedoms, you have to understand that for most of the years after WWII, they pretty much spent their time screwing over everyone else. I think that human rights should be considered not only in the context of how a country treats its own citizens, but how it treats other countries’ citizens as well. In the latter, the US’s history is indefensible.
And according to the Reuters report, it was the United States that broke with tradition and forced a vote. Why did the US want a re-vote? According to the vote, 33 nations voted for Libya, 17 abstained, and 3 voted no (including the US).
Looks like the majority of the people wanted Libya- no need to have sour grapes. Why does the US always need to be top dog?
RE: Libya to head UN’s Human Rights Commission
[updated:LAST EDITED ON 20-01-03 AT 10:29 PM (GMT)]While the US may grants its own citizens great personal freedoms, you have to understand that for most of the years after WWII, they pretty much spent their time screwing over everyone else. I think that human rights should be considered not only in the context of how a country treats its own citizens, but how it treats other countries’ citizens as well. In the latter, the US’s history is indefensible.
And according to the Reuters report, it was the United States that broke with tradition and forced a vote. Why did the US want a re-vote? According to the vote, 33 nations voted for Libya, 17 abstained, and 3 voted no (including the US).
Looks like the majority of the people wanted Libya- no need to have sour grapes. Why does the US always need to be top dog?