Same goes for FalconDude who somehow considered Su-57 thread a fitting place for fake news about Iran’s Khamenei firing Air Defense Force chief because of imaginary F-35 stunts.
Hey hey hey, first of all, this piece of news was available online -and to this day I have no idea if it is fake or real-, and second I would think that the reason it was posted in the Su-57 thread is quite evident and it is not because I have anything against the plane nor Russians. If you cannot see that I ain’t gonna school you.
About the Gutenev piece…
Why don’t you help us with the obvious first and just tell us who these people (Gutenev etc) are and why you have no faith in their statements?
Would they have access to such information? Do they have a history of “talking out of their ass” or are generally respectable?
The thread got deleted because someone (falcondude) posted some politically charged partisan nonsense about the su 57.
If you want the threads to last, stop posting politically charged nonsense.
What exactly was politically charged -in other words what did I post exactly, or even better, prove it.
Oh and second how do you know that is the reason? Are you a moderator or did you delete the thread ?
It most definitely needs to be discussed !
I’m pretty certain i was not the thread starter of the now missing thread.
Are you sure? We have had so many threads, you may have started that one…
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If my memory serves the above translation is a bit different to the original.
It would be nice if russian speaking members offered their views on the original release.
ActionJackson
I have started a new thread, could you please move that to the new thread please? (I am on my phone)
cheers
I am significantly older than 911 and these expressions existed well before …
When was that?! I last read about the order of 12 Airframe.
It was one of the usual news related releases that Austin posts. Haavarla and myself made some comments before the thread got… nuked.
The Turkish carriers are not being procured for coastal protection. Turkey has acquired large bases in Qatar, Somalia, Sudan and Djibouti. Turkey intends to have its carrier in the Indian Ocean and protect its sea lines of communication to these bases (primarily in the Arabian Sea).
Really ? protect the sea lines from whom? Is that why Turkey is building LHDs too? To help with conducting landing operations against anyone who hurts turkish sea lines in the arabian sea?
The Kurds will be dealt with in due time.
I am not sure what to make of this comment. Perhaps you are right and a people’s centuries’ old struggle to independence needs to be dealt with! Who am I to judge ..right?
I do agree the article is pointless though.
Long story short…
Sorry, I did not mean to hijack the thread with my problems.
Who cares about the thread, the important thing is for you to get better soon mate! Keep us posted.
That wasnt obvious at all from your comment. Plenty of people write SU-XX because they dont know better.
Tomato/tomato we all know we are talkiing about a fruit passing for a vegetable in the end (ala MIG/MiG). I am more upset about the T-50 thread going …
You mean the island leased to the Brits then stolen by them after WWI.
The Island Turkey had to intervene in to protect the genocide of the Turkish minority because a junta Government wanted ENOSIS- reunification with Greece?
The Island Turkey intervened in pursuant to a Treaty of Guarantee 1960 giving it express rights to intervene if there was intercommunal fighting?
Occupying an EU member? You mean the Turkish Minority group on the Island VOTED for independence after Turkey prevented a genocide and guaranteed their safety?
Perhaps you can fool someone else but not someone that knows the non-distorted facts.
I posted the above here to show who bck stabbed who and why Turkey is taking the stance it is taking in Syria of late.
THE US JUST ADMITTED TO ARMING A TERRORIST GROUP REBRANDED BY THEM TO USE AS A DESTABILISING FORCE IN SYRIA
Perhaps Turkey should re-brand ISIS, Al QAEDA, AL NUSRA etc and use them against the SDF since its ok to “rebrand” terrorist organisations according to the US.
P.S. Turkey is not the one seeking to carve out Statelets in the Middle East that furthers its interests- the last I checked the US has more than 15 bases in Northern Syria.
Oh yeah, that’s right, I left Syria out of the countries Turkey has invaded/bullied/threatened/insulted.. I knew I’d forgotten something..
This thread has deteriorated into pro-Turkish political propaganda. Why have the moderators not shut it down? Our forum is meant to be for aviation-related topics.
it’s kinda the point I was making..
How the US f**ked up its alliance with Turkey. A good lesson on how not to push a NATO ally into Russia’s lap!
Enough with the entitlement man, the US didn’t f**k up its alliance with Turkey, Turkey did with its Neo ottoman aspirations.
I didn’t see you complain when the US when serving Turkey’s interests. Stop crying now. Turkey is probably the most imperialistic, militaristic country in the world for the last 40 years issuing warnings to all of its neighbours over the years, besides perhaps North Korea. And the only country to illegally occupy with an occupation army another sovereign country which happens to be an EU country as well and the only country to issue a ‘Casus belli’ against another European country.
You’ve had problems (which usually involves some kind of military action) with :
Greece, Cyprus, Egypt, Israel, Russia, Bulgaria, Iran, Iraq.. let me see, did I leave anyone out? and now with the US and Germany too.
Frankly I am surprised the rest of the world is still tolerating this Turkish attitude. Geography has been kind to you, but moderate that entitlement.
If only France would do the same
I think (wishfully) that the EU will move sooner or later to a true European Force. After than, NATO is no longer needed.