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  • in reply to: Shoreham Airshow Accident – AAIB Update Due Out Today #909665
    Mike J
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    Again, the ground makes no distinction as to whether a vintage jet hitting it is carrying a military or civil registration. The fact is they have a dreadful safety record, regardless of who is operating them or what country they were built in.

    There are over 50 high-powered piston-engined fighters currently operational in the UK, over 100 piston-engined warbirds in total, many of which are very active and fly at a large number of events every season. Compare that with a maximum of 20-30 vintage jets operational at any one time, which fly at a relatively small number of events each year. Statistically, the record of vintage jets in terms of accident rate is much, much worse.

    in reply to: Shoreham Airshow Accident – AAIB Update Due Out Today #909753
    Mike J
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    Does it matter? The safety record is a factor of all facets of the aircraft’s operation. They hit the ground just as hard whatever the cause.

    in reply to: Shoreham Airshow Accident – AAIB Update Due Out Today #909758
    Mike J
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    Four Hunters destroyed, two Meteors, two Vampires, a Venom, at least five JPs/Strikemasters involved in serious accidents (three of them fatal), two Gnats (one of them fatal), Miles Student. At least 16 aircraft written off and 23 deaths. In view of the relatively small number of these types operational at any one time, how could anyone possibly describe this as ‘a very good safety record’? And that is just using your very selective criteria of ‘British types only’, so ignoring the L-29, L-39, Bronco and T-33 crashes.

    in reply to: B29 Superfortress and the atomic bomb #909798
    Mike J
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    It would also depend on how much infrastructure cost you include for the B-29 programme. If you take account of all the modification centers (such as Great Bend, KS, which I visited a few years back) to fix the B-29’s problems before they went overseas, and all the development costs for the R-3350, I suspect you’ll end up with a tidy sum.

    in reply to: Shoreham Airshow Accident – AAIB Update Due Out Today #909800
    Mike J
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    Vintage jets can be operated quite safely and in an entertaining manner when the likes of Jonathan Whaley, Dan Griffith and Brian Grant are at the controls,sadly not all vintage jet pilots are up to their standard.
    The above are just a few examples, there are many more highly competent individuals.
    The CAA are seeking to weed out the less talented.

    I’m confused. I’m sure that I read here only a few days ago that you were claiming that no UK Warbird pilots were there purely due to the size of their wallets. Now you seem to be saying precisely the opposite.

    in reply to: Shoreham Airshow Accident – AAIB Update Due Out Today #909802
    Mike J
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    Selective?… Not at all. L-29 and L-39 were operated for a relatively short time over here, and as far as I’m aware none are flown now.

    A few L-29s are still flown now, and no L-39s in the UK, but that doesn’t alter the fact that a number of them were wrecked. An L-29 into the sea, and two L-39s at Duxford.

    And I’m not sure what your point is about British classic jets. The ground makes no distinction what nationality the aircraft is when it hits it. Are you saying that the CAA should have one set of rules for classic jets made in Britain, and another for those from overseas?

    in reply to: Shoreham Airshow Accident – AAIB Update Due Out Today #909971
    Mike J
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    As I said, I’ve counted up 12 fatal vintage jet accidents in the UK causing 25 deaths, just off the top of my head. From your selective list, I counted 3 fatal JP/Strikemaster crashes.

    in reply to: Shoreham Airshow Accident – AAIB Update Due Out Today #910023
    Mike J
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    Perhaps I’m just getting jaded. I’ve watched four of the things plough into the dirt in a fireball, enough is enough as far as I’m concerned.

    in reply to: Anyone Want A MiG? #910031
    Mike J
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    in reply to: Duxford Diary (2016) #911093
    Mike J
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    Looks like Korey Wells in the cockpit

    in reply to: Shoreham Airshow Accident – AAIB Update Due Out Today #911249
    Mike J
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    How many high-powered piston warbirds are there operational? How many hours and display slots do they fly annually vs the same same statistic for vintage jets? Off the top of my head I come up with around 50 high-powered monoplane fighters based in the UK. Add in trainers, biplane fighters and multi-engine types and you can more than double that number. Compare that with, at the most, 20 operational vintage jets.

    As regards Duxford I can think of at least four jet accidents, one of which was fatal and two of the others were very, very lucky indeed not to have been. Plus various others which were more incidents than accidents.

    in reply to: Shoreham Airshow Accident – AAIB Update Due Out Today #911285
    Mike J
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    Having digested the latest missive from the AAIB, the CAA’s response yesterday and the CAA’s recent engine directive, I’d say that vintage jets are pretty much done in the UK. This is based on the tone of the report and the comments made by the CAA yesterday in their response saying that the temporary restrictions (presumably meaning that jet aerobatics are still banned and the Hunters grounded) are staying in force until the full report is published.

    The 2013 Bronco crash will also be used to justify draconian increases in display line distances from the crowd. Having been to an airshow in Germany a couple of years back, I can say that this will make a huge difference to the view from the public area at airshows in the future.

    It seems that the two jet crashes last year and the Bronco crash in 2013 will between them change the face of UK airshows forever. I counted up, off the top of my head, 13 historic jet crashes in the UK claiming 25 lives, and I’m sure I’ve missed some. On top of that at least nine more have been involved in serious accidents, in most cases destroying the aircraft. As there have probably been no more than 30 or so vintage jets operational at any one time, even at the peak of the movement, I’d say it’s no bad thing that the damn things are being legislated out of existence. I know that the jet fanboys out there will disagree with this, but their horrendous statistical accident record goes to prove that they have no place in the hands of private operators.

    (Ducks and waits for incoming fire!)

    in reply to: Shoreham Airshow Accident – AAIB Update Due Out Today #911404
    Mike J
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    I was under the impression that when the Hunter crashed, it wasn’t actually displaying at the airfield (?) Not going by the
    videos anyway.

    It was part-way through its display routine at the time of the crash.

    in reply to: Kight Twister, N979. #911756
    Mike J
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    Yes, I believe Richard Earl was one of the co-owners of the Miles Hawk.

    in reply to: Shoreham Airshow Accident – AAIB Update Due Out Today #911950
    Mike J
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    This is for certain given the recent proposed clampdown on the DAE’s , DA holders and FDD’s .
    Don’t think the final report is going to hold any surprises then……….

    Or the Carfest Gnat one either…

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