wrong info…

TOW 2A BUNKER BUSTER
A “bunker buster” variant of the TOW 2A, to defeat field fortifications, bunkers and urban structures, has been developed and fielded by the US Army. The TOW 2A Bunker Buster has a range of 3,750m. It is scheduled to arm the US Army’s Anti-Tank Guided Missile (ATGM) variant of the Stryker combat vehicle family.

There are 2 versions on TOW 2A, one is ant bunker, on is anti armour,

TOW 2A ANTI-TANK MISSILE
For penetration of tanks protected with explosive reactive armour (ERA), TOW 2A is equipped with a tandem warhead. A small disrupter charge detonates the reactive armour and allows the main shaped charge to penetrate the main armour.

TOW 2A BUNKER BUSTER
A “bunker buster” variant of the TOW 2A, to defeat field fortifications, bunkers and urban structures, has been developed and fielded by the US Army. The TOW 2A Bunker Buster has a range of 3,750m. It is scheduled to arm the US Army’s Anti-Tank Guided Missile (ATGM) variant of the Stryker combat vehicle family.

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/tow/

The DSCA press release indicates Pakistan will be getting the anti-armour version

“Pakistan will augment its land forces with these TOW-2A anti-armor guided missiles. Pakistan will use these missiles to increase its military defensive posture and will have no difficulty absorbing these additional missiles into its armed forces.”

http://www.dsca.mil/PressReleases/36-b/36b_index.htm

I hope that clears things up, these babies will be used against tanks or Tribals made of reactive armour!

Interesting to note that the TOW-2A isn’t a tandem warhead. Tandems are specially made to counter ERA.

BGM-71E TOW 2A In the late 1980s, the prime contractor for the TOW weapon system began producing the TOW 2A which gives the capability to defeat reactive armor

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/tow.htm

A Pakistani MESMA equipped Agosta 90b will have a higher submerged endurance then any of the above surely!? Why on earth is it not listed!?

Pakistan – TOW-2A Anti-Armor Guided Missiles

On 16 November 2004, the Defense Security Cooperation Agency notified Congress of a possible Foreign Military Sale to Pakistan of 2,000 TOW-2A missiles, 14 TOW-2A Fly-to-Buy missiles, as well as associated equipment and services. The total value, if all options are exercised, could be as high as $82 million.

The Government of Pakistan has requested a possible sale of 2,000 TOW-2A missiles, 14 TOW-2A Fly-to-Buy missiles, spare and repair parts, technical support, support equipment, personnel training and training equipment, technical data and publications, U.S. Government and contractor engineering and logistics support services, and other related elements of logistics support. The estimated cost is $82 million.

This proposed sale will contribute to furthering the foreign policy and national security of the United States by helping a friendly country provide for its own legitimate self-defense needs and to enable Pakistan to support U.S. operations against terrorist activity along its porous borders. In addition, these missiles have most recently been employed in several global war on terrorism operations in the tribal areas of Pakistan and have allowed – when coupled with Cobra attack helicopters – the Government of Pakistan to employ new tactics, techniques and procedures that have proven highly effective against terrorists.

Pakistan will augment its land forces with these TOW-2A anti-armor guided missiles. Pakistan will use these missiles to increase its military defensive posture and will have no difficulty absorbing these additional missiles into its armed forces. Pakistan’s existing inventory of TOW missiles will soon begin to be affected by its specified shelf life. While TOW missiles can be employed beyond their shelf life, system reliability and safety are eroded. Pakistan continues to expend TOW missiles in both training exercises and combat operations.

The proposed sale of this equipment and support will not affect the basic military balance in the region.

The prime contractor will be Raytheon Company in Tucson, Arizona. There are no known offset agreements proposed in connection with this potential sale.

Implementation of this proposed sale will not require the assignment of any additional U.S. Government or contractor representatives to Pakistan.

There will be no adverse impact on U.S. defense readiness as a result of this proposed sale.

This notice of a potential sale is required by law; it does not mean that the sale has been concluded.

heres an example of cobra gunships being used. to destroy a house they’d have to use either rockets or a couple ATGMs. with
fresh 2000 rds in pipeline they maybe more willing to shoot off
expensive TOWs now 🙂

Nine dead in fresh clashes in Pakistani tribal area

ISN SECURITY WATCH (10/11/2004) – Three Pakistani soldiers and six tribesmen were killed and more than 28 injured in an overnight clash in the South Waziristan agency on Tuesday, as Pakistani security forces resumed military operations in the area after failed peace talks. Three civilians were also injured in the violence. In the intense fighting, Pakistani troops were forced to seek help from gunship helicopters. The US-made Cobra gunship helicopters targeted eight suspected militant hideouts. Military gunships targeted the house of a senior provincial government official in Kharazay, whose family had fled the area prior to the raid. The house was destroyed, but no casualties were reported. The armed forces operation also hit a mosque and a seminary. All roads leading into and out to the area have been closed, and security forces remain on high alert. Though the military has dubbed the operation a “success”, the country’s most-wanted militant, tribal commander Abdullah Mahsud, remains at large. On Wednesday, a fresh contingent of troops advanced further into the region to the Mahsud’s home village of Nano. Both Pakistani and US officials have said that Mahsud has been sheltered foreign militants in Nano. Pakistani Interior Minister Aftab Sherpao Ahmad Khan told ISN Security Watch that Afghanistan is responsible for failing to stop alien militants from infiltrating Pakistan and hampering the military operation. Though the military did not claim to arrest or kill any “foreign militants”, the official did say that “the alien terrorists, fully laden with explosive and other sophisticated weapons, were being assisted from across the border”. Meanwhile, US Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage left for Afghanistan on Wednesday after holding talks on the situation in Iraq, Afghanistan, and the “war on terror”. Armitage vowed increased cooperation with Pakistan in the “war on terror”. In another development, some unidentified gunmen shot dead three members of Sunni Tehreek in an incident of sectarian violence. The assailants opened fire on Sunni activists outside Allah Wali Mosque in Pakistan’s southern city of Karachi. Local police officer, Abdullah Shaikh, told television channels that it was an armed clash between two religious groups. No arrests had been made by the time of publication. (By Naveed Ahmad in Islamabad)

Well, our home made Bakther Shikan wwas also used in this ops, the TOW 2A is specifically designed to defeat reactive armour, something we dont have on our western border, but do have to the east! :dev2:

$100million plus for that Vintage pieces?

P-3C is a “vintage piece”!? Its flown by most modern Navy’s…..

Yes, I think “Fly to buy” means missiles ready for immidiate delivery.

I was under the impression that Pakistans Cobra fleet was modified to fire Bakther Shikan missile!?

The Indian Navy seems to have given up the idea of the P3’s and is looking for newer versions of the Atlantique among others.

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It said the P-3C aircraft, built by Lockheed Martin Corp. (LMT.N: Quote, Profile, Research) , would improve Pakistan’s ability to restrict the movement of militants along its southern border, in particular, and improve border security everywhere.
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That’s a joke.

I dont think the Atlantique will be purchased by any Navy from now on….
German Nay is retiring them as is Pak Navy , why did the IN give uop on the P-3s? I thought they were entusiastic about them at one point?