PT, all those six hovercrafts were inducted between 2000 and 2002. A few images from BR.
cool, is that their operational colour scheme!?
I have a pic of an MI-24 in Pakistan Army markings but cant find it at the momment, MI-24 never served in Pakistan Army…er….technically!
HAL Gnat belong to Pakistan Air Force
I thought the RAF had 7 E-3s, most sources list 6, whats the deal here!?
New weapons and equipment for Creeks Battalion
By Our Staff Reporter
ISLAMABAD, Jan 6: The Creeks Battalion of the Pakistan Navy has been reinforced with new weapons and equipment for combat patrolling, anti-aircraft defence, anti-terrorism and anti-smuggling operations, officials told Dawn.
The battalion had been raised in 1999 for the defence of Sir Creek Area on the south-eastern border. “The battalion’s capability to undertake anti-terrorism operations, stop smuggling and check illegal activities on Pakistan’s coastal belt, has been enhanced with the induction of a Military Assault Boat (MAB) and a Hovercraft,” said an official.
Answering a question, the official said three more Hovercrafts and MABs were in the pipeline. Pakistan negotiated the deal for four Hovercrafts with the UK. The Hovercraft Griffon 2000 TD (M) is capable of carrying up to 22 troops at a maximum speed of 35 knots over a variety of surfaces with obstacle clearance of 0.73 metres and 1.2 metre maximum wave height for operating sea state.
It is said to be capable of performing a variety of tasks. The official said India had also contracted the British Griffon company for six 8000 TD Hovercrafts, with two to be supplied by the company and the rest four to be built in India.
New weapons and equipment for Creeks Battalion
By Our Staff Reporter
ISLAMABAD, Jan 6: The Creeks Battalion of the Pakistan Navy has been reinforced with new weapons and equipment for combat patrolling, anti-aircraft defence, anti-terrorism and anti-smuggling operations, officials told Dawn.
The battalion had been raised in 1999 for the defence of Sir Creek Area on the south-eastern border. “The battalion’s capability to undertake anti-terrorism operations, stop smuggling and check illegal activities on Pakistan’s coastal belt, has been enhanced with the induction of a Military Assault Boat (MAB) and a Hovercraft,” said an official.
Answering a question, the official said three more Hovercrafts and MABs were in the pipeline. Pakistan negotiated the deal for four Hovercrafts with the UK. The Hovercraft Griffon 2000 TD (M) is capable of carrying up to 22 troops at a maximum speed of 35 knots over a variety of surfaces with obstacle clearance of 0.73 metres and 1.2 metre maximum wave height for operating sea state.
It is said to be capable of performing a variety of tasks. The official said India had also contracted the British Griffon company for six 8000 TD Hovercrafts, with two to be supplied by the company and the rest four to be built in India.
NATO compatable FC-1?
Actually, among the first and largest shipments of aid came in China Southern 747s to both Sri Lanka and Indonesia.
Xanadu wants to see the PLAN and PLAAF involved and that is something China doesn’t want to do very often outside its borders. Not the least of it has to do with China’s non-interference doctrine and partiallly because of American threat perceptions.
The US complained long and loud about 350 Chinese peacekeepers on Haiti so forget about Chinese warships streaming into the Indian Ocean which is basically an American lake that China had always avoided. They’ve enough trouble with Americans on the Chinese coastline.
I just wish people would just even try and get the facts before making sweeping statements like “How has China helped”!
the JSF is more important for the US in terms of its allies and role abroad.
Basically it is hoped it will do for the US in the future what the F-16 did in the 80s and 90s
help modernise and strangthen the air defence of allies abroad
make more nations remain dependent on US technology
The F-22 is to expensive to take over this role
#94 6th January 2005, 00:05
GoldenDragon
Fly GoldenDragon Airlines Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 2,755Those who think it’s a game will play it like a game. Those who don’t will simply donate money, supplies and rescue personel.
————————————————————————————Havent heard much of those supplies and rescue personel from the Chinese side.
Thats because they gave money instead
Word contribution, Source: Reuters, United Nations
World Bank: $250m
UK: $96m
Sweden: $75m
Spain: $68m
China: $60m
France: $56m
EU $44m
Netherlands: $36m
US: $35m
Canada: $80m
Japan: $500m
Australia: $27m
Switzerland: $23m
Norway: $16.6m
Denmark: $15.6m
Saudi Arabia: $10m
Taiwan: $5.1m
Finland: $3.4m
Kuwait: $2.1m
UAE: $2m
The PAF with the F-15 or F-14? Lol. That’s pretty funny. Maybe then they might have a prayer against any other air arm in the region…..lol.
we can manage without them, just like I manage without your ill informed remarks everyday…
I think this means we will pretty much standardise on the 90B as our only submarine, another 3 will give us a fleet of 6 Agosta 90Bs and 3 Agosta 70 (which have sub launched Harpoon), thats 9 submarines
PN to continue Agosta 90-B Sub project
ISLAMABAD (APP) – Chief of the Naval Staff, Admiral Shahid Karimullah said Pakistan Navy aimed to continue the indigenous construction project of Agosta 90-B submarines aimed at meeting requirements of the Naval Forces of the country.
The Chief of Naval Staff was addressing the Annual Efficiency Competition Parade and Awards Ceremony-2004 of Pakistan Navy Fleet led by Vice Admiral Muhammad Haroon.
According to a press release issued here on Wednesday by the Naval Headquarters, Admiral Shahid further said, “The government is fully cognisant of Navy’s requirements and is all set to provide full support within the available resources.”
He expressed the hope that with all these projects Pakistan Navy would be able to overcome the shortage of platforms.
However, availability of modern platforms and weapons is not the ultimate solution to our shortcomings but the professional competence of fighting men and their resolve to defend the national interest makes the real difference, he remarked.
“The procurement of F-22P frigates from China is in final stages of contractual negotiations and acquisition of P-3C aircraft from USA is in progress of which the first two will be delivered to Pakistan Navy by the end of year 2005,” he said.
“To prove equal to the sacred task of guarding the sea frontiers, a potent and efficient fleet is necessary for which Pakistan Navy is focused to meet critical additional requirements of surface ships, submarines and long range maritime patrol aircraft,” the Naval Chief said.
He expressed his complete satisfaction over the performance and efforts of PN fleet for successfully accomplishing the operational objectives set for the year.
He also commended the full time participation of the recently inducted VBSS boats with the special forces operations.
Earlier in his welcome address, Commander Pakistan Fleet Vice Admiral Muhammad Haroon recounted the operational objectives set for the year.
Pakistan Navy is proud to actively participate in the relief operations in the flood-hit areas of South East Asian countries, he said. He apprised the audience that the units of PN fleet participation in a number of operational exercises with navies of various foreign countries including from Saudi Arabia, USA, Oman and Turkey.
Besides these exercises, Pakistan Navy also contributed toward international war against terrorism by participating in Coalition Maritime Campaign Plan, he said.
All these exercises and operations, he said, not only proved battle worthiness of Pakistan Navy but also turned out to be highly beneficial for enhancement of its professional capabilities.
He also extended his gratitude to all those organizations which provided technical and logistic support to PN fleet.
Later, the Chief Guest Admiral Shahid Karimullah gave away prizes to the winning units. In submarine squadron, PNS/M KHALID clinched the first position. In destroyers category, PNS TARIQ was proclaimed the winner and auxiliary vessels, PNS KALMAT received the winning trophy for being the best tanker while PNS MUJAHID was declared the best Mine Counter Vessel in this category. X-Craft-01, 29 Squardon and PNS LARKANA were adjudged the best in major units, Aviation and Patrol Vessels category.
The ceremony was attended by a large number of senior naval officers, officers, sailors and civil dignitaries.
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Pakistan, China discuss transfer of new weapons
Press Trust of India
Islamabad, December 31, 2004|17:20 IST
Pakistan and Chinese officials have held talks to discuss details of transfer of new weapons system to the Pakistan Navy.
Chief of Pakistan Naval Staff Admiral Shahid Karimullah and Chinese Ambassador Zhang Chunxiang discussed issues related to the transfer of F-22P frigates and Z-9 helicopters to Pakistan, local daily Dawn said.
Pakistan is looking forward to get Z-9 helicopters from China which would form an accessory to the F-22P frigates and enhance the weapons range of the frigate, officials said.
The Z-9 gunship is a French-designed Z-9 (Dauphin II) multi-purpose helicopter produced under license in China.
With a capacity of 14 seats, the Z-9 helicopters can carry anti-submarine torpedoes and missiles in addition to having features of electronic warfare, communications, artillery spotting, naval ship-borne anti-submarine warfare and search and rescue, the officials said.
The delivery of the frigates along with helicopters is said to be in their final stages of contractual negotiations, they said.
Jonsey
I have already made that request to mods !
Thank You
Guys
On my behalf, I apologise for getting off topic, and will delete all my irrelevent posts.
Lava
I suggest we take this to another thread, you seem so keen on showing just how great the IN is compared to the PN, lets have an actual thread to compare capabilities?
let me not argue with you on what colonials have and what we don’t have.
About your piddly navy being (as usal) better than us. 😀
I will just tell you an anecdote. It happened I had a small bumper damage (in an arabic country) when an arab’s car sewered and hit mine. He being a gentleman (insurance on his car got over the other day and he was on his way to pay it. 😉 ) offered to repair my cars bender. As it was getting repaired, we exchanged pleasentries and he happened to be a top official of his countries navy. So obviously we got talking. He told me his basic training was in Pakistani navy and advanced in Indian and French navy.
I asked him why not advanced training in PN. Because advanced stuff is with IN. So i asked him about the french training. He said they are good but the instructers are not as eager to give out more than required. IN trainers were willing to give some extra info, hence more sailors are being sent to India. I asked him physical standards. He tells me its same everywhere, in particular to some types IN training, its in human.i asked him about professionalism. He said its difficult to describe. He said he wouldn’t like to get into that. ( he was a professional you see.). But he complimented IN by saying “they are very nice people, i hope that satisfies you.” :rolleyes:
Slowly he drifted to other things. he was talking about getting close to an Indian ship while he was on a PN frigate. He said he was surprised that the Indian Captain (he named him) sent a “greetings” message to the PN captain. That was promptly responded by PN captain. Another thing he said that he wished his countries navy was the size and quality that IN posses. I asked IN vs PN… he started laughing. he said thats the problem with you Indians. He says PN is too small for IN. Its no match. Why do you even want me to give a match up? (well i was in discomfort). So i changed the topic.
So try not to put your “you must be good, but don’t under estimate us kind of talk”. Get on with your life. I hope this is the best way to put it to you.
Vaiar,
You got to read a lot.
Brute
Nice to hear about your tale and your “friend”. I dont do insults, and I certainly dont want to get into the stories I have heard about the IN from amongstn others, Royal Navy personnel, as if I wrote down what they told me about the IN and how they look after former RN ships, I would be accused of flaming.
I do not need to recount other peoples opinions of how good the PN are, that is not the purpose of this thread.
You asked Viar to do some reading, I suggest you do some of your own and look at PNs MPA and Submarine equipment, its order for new ships .
At the same time you can go to the PN website and find out about the 22 other nations who recieve training from us.
No doubt about it that the IN is a professional and competent force, we just have to look at the splendid job they are doing in providing disaster relief.
Also they are and always will be bigger then the PN, does not take a genious to figure that out.
But please, dont think for once second think that PN is not ahead of the IN in several areas or is less competent. The crew of the INS Kukri would disagree with you on the latter count……..