Antique? Now there is a change in your attitude…
Nope, the 20FS has disbanded. The last Phantoms have arrived.
Learning about other aircraft, taking other aircraft seriously… actually, that might improve your contributionary value to this board a lot ๐
I am with Arthur on this Phantom II, I dont dislike you or the F-4, but dont write off other countries efforts so easily…
Iยดm the only who believes that EF-2000ยดs Tranche III will continue?
Because we need that planes….really…
Agreed, but there is often a gap between what you need and what you can afford unfortunately….
Forgot to add, Phantom II may be issued a passport and go and learn more about the world outside the US……..but this seems unlikley! ๐
1) More F-16 deliveries to Pakistan after an almost 20 year gap
2) Possible sale of SU-30 to other counties in South America, Africa and Asia
3) First export sucess for Rafeal fighter
4) Possible Israeli/US air action against Iran
5) sucessful weapons integration and testing on FC-1, possible non PAF export order
6) More JSF orders from US allies
7) Possible use of Japanese air power abroad as part of a coalition
8) cancallation of Eurofighter tranche III
9) Large Saudi fighter order with immense political significance (could be a anti US or pro US decision)
10) EU will formally lift armes embargo on China, paving way for possible Chinese orders of A400M, Eurocopter, EH101
If we go by the Type 21 upgrades and Agosta 90bs, we can expect the new chinese frigates to be packed with some very good European systems and weapons
Someone else can also post abt the aid thats arriving at Indonesia from the other parts. As for me, I think the Indian Govt had to do a bit more for that part and need to do more, inaddition to the Indian A & N islands.
BTW the British AID has taken off , from their ‘noble’ skys and they cudn’t find anything nobler than the polluting Russian IL-76’s.
abv link credit-Jai
I think its quite wrong that during this tragedy all you care to think about is how much pr coverage yout forces get….
Britain is using its C-130 fleet AND contracting IL-76s to lift extra aid, I doubt very much the hungry and homless victims care on what type of plane their food and blankets are delivered on.
Will BBC give more coverage to British aid efforts then to Indian aid efforts? Yes, of course
Will CNN giver more coverage to US aid efforsts then to Indian efforts? Yes of course
Will Indian papers give more coverage to Indian efforts then to UK/US efforts?
Yes
I find your posts heartless……..
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From DAWN, 02 January 2005
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2 Pakistan Navy ships, C-130s to join rescue work
By Qudssia Akhlaque
ISLAMABAD, Jan 1: Pakistan will dispatch on Monday two navy ships to Sri Lanka to help in rescue operations there and also fly two C-130 cargo planes with relief goods and medical supplies to Indonesia that has been worst hit by the Tsunami disaster.
The decision was taken at the highest political level here on Saturday.
“Starting from Jan 3, 2005, six to seven sorties of two C-130 aircraft are being sent to Indonesia to deploy one composite engineering task force and one field hospital. Total deployment of these self-sustained engineering and medical units will be around 300 personnel. Besides these units, relief supplies will be rushed to Indonesia,” the foreign ministry announced here on Saturday.
The ministry spokesman said on the same day Pakistan would also dispatch to Sri Lanka two navy ships carrying helicopters together with a Marine Expeditionary Force as well as doctors, paramedics, medical supplies, relief goods and foodstuff.
Pakistan has decided to join the International Task Force to coordinate worldwide relief and international efforts for the Asian region ravaged by the deadly earthquake and Tsunami. Pakistan was the first country to respond and dispatched a C-130 aircraft with relief consignment of tents, medical supplies and food items to Sri Lanka within 24 hours after it was struck by tsunami.
Two Pakistan Navy ships, PNS Tariq and PNS Nasr that were in Maldivian coast when the tragedy occurred, helped in evacuation of 367 foreign tourists, representing 17 nationalities, and locals stranded on the Memmu Atoll island, south of Male. Sea king helicopter onboard Nasr was also deployed for dropping food supplies to the affected inaccessible areas and local authorities dealing with the emergency were also taken onboard for aerial survey of the area to assess the extent of damage caused.
Pakistan Navy ships also established a medical assistance centre at the main jetty and provided medical assistance to the injured. On Dec 28, the two naval ships left for the eastern and western zones of the Maldives for assistance and aerial survey/damage assessment. On Dec 31, a C-130 aircraft, carrying relief items of tents, blankets, foodstuff and medicines, was dispatched to the Maldives.
Pakistan government has conveyed its readiness to assist the affected countries in any manner required to alleviate the humanitarian consequences of this catastrophe. Both President Gen Pervez Musharraf and Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz, besides sending messages of condolences and sympathies, also spoke to the leaders of the affected countries by telephone, assuring them of Pakistan’s fullest cooperation and assistance in rescue operations.
To implement the directives of the president and the prime minister, the cabinet division, armed forces and the foreign ministry are working closely to provide timely humanitarian and relief interventions to the countries affected by the tsunami waves, the foreign ministry spokesman said.
In his capacity as Chairman of Saarc, Mr Aziz on Friday called for evolving a mechanism for putting in place an Asia-wide Early Warning and Disaster Response Regime to avert such disasters in future.
“I am confident that the Saarc member states will at the forthcoming summit in Dhaka give priority consideration to elaborating such collaborative arrangements,” he said in his message to the Saarc member states on the new year eve.
The 13th Saarc summit that was scheduled to be held on Jan 9-11 has also been postponed to enable the South Asian governments of member-states to pay undivided attention to relief and reconstruction efforts.
The tsunami disaster has caused wide-scale damage to life and property. It has killed more than 150,000 people and affected even more in 12 South and South-east Asian states. Among the Saarc states Sri Lanka, India and the Maldives have been severely affected by it.
Good stuff, as usual PAF have reacted very quickly, simhilar to Bhuj earthquake, am extremly proud of the Pakistani C-130 crews
I take it we network all our land based Chinese radars with out advanced US systems?
Thanks Golden Dragon, most helpful.
“Navy also aims to continue the indigenous construction project of Agosta 90 B submarines, he said.”
I think they mean “license produced” and not indigenous. I think that is a slap to the face to the French who actually created the Sub!
well J33 I guess if you want to get all pedantic about it you could reasonably claim he meant the actual production was indigenous not the design…..afterall, I think the head of the PN knows pretty damn well where the Agosta 90B is from….
Rescued tourists on PN vessel
Rescued tourists on PN vessel
Jang.com.pk
PM Aziz calls Indian counterpart on phone
(Updated at 1830 PST)
ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz has talked to his Indian counterpart Manmohan Singh in a telephone conversation that lasted for 15 minutes.
According to sources in the Prime Minister house Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz condoled his Indian counterpart on the quakes and tsunamis that have killed thousands in India.
Aziz assured Manmohan of his full support from Pakistan in this moment of grief. The Indian Prime Minister also thanked Shaukat Aziz for the aid and support that Pakistan has provided to India.
Good news, new frigtes, more Orions and more Agosta 90Bs….
http://www.dawn.com/2004/12/29/welcome.htm
Procurement of F-22P frigates from China in final stage of contractual agreement: Chief of Naval Staff – KARACHI, Dec 29: Chief of Naval Staff Admiral Shahid Karimullah said today that procurement of F-22P frigates from China is in final stages of contractual negotiations and acquisition of P-3C aircraft from USA is in progress of which first two would be delivered to Pakistan Navy by the end of 2005. Pakistan Navy also aims to continue the indigenous construction project of Agosta 90 B submarines, he said. (PPI) (Posted @ 16:50 PST)