Looks like we have another incarnation of “ih8bush” :rolleyes:
you need glasses in the whole quote i never once mentioned Bush or reffered to him. To like him or hate him is entirely a matter for the Americans themselves.
The simple fact is that neither Muslims nor Jews know how to build successful prosperous nations. Look at every Muslim country, it’s a craphole. Look at Israel, it’s only successful because of massive aid from the US and extorting “reparations” from Germany (how much longer will that continue?). What needs to be done is that we Christians need to take over the entire middle east and show those barbarians the benefits of Christian western culture.
I wonder who was responsible for the mass murder of around 20 million souls in first world war, the murder of jews in the second world war, the mass murder of around 50 million souls in the second world war.
Now who could it be?
the Jews?
The muslims?
or could it be Slobo’s “Christian western culture”. I leave the answer to you all.
PS. Donot mention the mass murders in Vietnam, Cambodia, Latin America, and Indonesia etc and not forgetting the 100 year rape of india and Africa.
The simple fact is that neither Muslims nor Jews know how to build successful prosperous nations. Look at every Muslim country, it’s a craphole. Look at Israel, it’s only successful because of massive aid from the US and extorting “reparations” from Germany (how much longer will that continue?). What needs to be done is that we Christians need to take over the entire middle east and show those barbarians the benefits of Christian western culture.
I wonder who was responsible for the mass murder of around 20 million souls in first world war, the murder of jews in the second world war, the mass murder of around 50 million souls in the second world war.
Now who could it be?
the Jews?
The muslims?
or could it be Slobo’s “Christian western culture”. I leave the answer to you all.
PS. Donot mention the mass murders in Vietnam, Cambodia, Latin America, and Indonesia etc and not forgetting the 100 year rape of india and Africa.
PAF wouldn’t have gone for F-16 if there was anything technologically superior available that they could afford….
Now that you take emotions out of it you make alot of sense. What you say maybe partially ( or wholly true -since we donot know the j-10 capability for sure) true. Pakistan can afford j10s and it is superior to the f-16s ( or it appears to be to the pakistanis who are impressed ) hence Pakistan cutting the initial desired order of around 75 new f-16s to this one of only 18 new f-16s.
In addition to that i would add getting the f-16s would enable Musharaff to show something concrete for being in the American camp in the so called war on terror.
Using that reasoning to arrive at the conclusion that J-10 = Su-30MKI is absurd. They’re nothing alike and will never be equivalent. The J-10 is outclassed purely by virtue of being a much smaller aircraft, never mind the total lack of information about its avionics, which is a very important part of the aircraft.
j-10 is a classified chinese state secret. so we donot know and i donot claim anything more than the conjecture i gave above. If you think rationally then you would accept the same for your “They’re nothing alike and will never be equivalent”.
I’ve got some bad news to burst your conspiracy bubble. F-16A was only certified to carry a limited set of weapons; AIM-9, Mark 80 series iron bombs, a couple different cluster bombs and the truly awful Maverick A. The F-16A’s technology breakthrough was having the fire control computer display CCIP on the HUD. This is the technology USAFE was using against the Warsaw Pact and is the same technology PAF got. PGMs were not seriously explored until the mid-1980s, and were not a reality until the LANTIRN pod was fielded in the 1990s…long after the PAF F-16s were built.
Unfortunately for you, American experts have testified numerous times that Pak f-16s were specifically designed/engineered as not to carry certain munitions. The book “critical mass” written by american authors too mentions this and also the fact that pakistani engineers managed to fix the design enabling their f-16s to carry nukes. That book also gives the narrative just how close Pak-india came to war in 1990/91 and the fact that CIA detected nuke loaded Pak f-16s on the runway–forcing imediate intervention from the americans to defuse the crisis.
If they were so close why is it that Pakistani F-16s are sitting in the desert in Arizona?
i told you a historical fact. Pak has always been close to the west and used their technology and trained its personel in their protocols etc.
As far as F-16s sitting in Arizona desert are concerned, they donot belong to Pakistan since USA has long refunded the money ( albeit in the form of soyabeans) during Clinton era. I get your point and so do millions of pakistanis that resent Pakistan’s cooperation with usa—it is America’s treachery they resent. But then again you have to be close to someoene to suffer treachery.
Nope just pointing out simple facts. Your average terrorist can find just about anything to justify his behavior. And it’s always somebody else’s fault.
i have no clue how u managed to squeeze in terrorists into the debate of wars between east and west. I suppose world history for you began on 911 or with the establishment of the state of israel.
Nope just pointing out simple facts. Your average terrorist can find just about anything to justify his behavior. And it’s always somebody else’s fault.
i have no clue how u managed to squeeze in terrorists into the debate of wars between east and west. I suppose world history for you began on 911 or with the establishment of the state of israel.
Pakistan is the US’s new best friend (until the terrorism problem stops anyway) so why wouldn’t they say good things about them?
I am not reffering to any praise since 911 but before that date. Unlike the indians, pakistanis donot claim to be born genious in technologies mastered and produced by the west. Pakistan has always been close to the USA and its pilots were trained by the Americans and other western countries, so they claim to be the best by learning from the best and the best also help them setup the top notch training instituitions and protocols.
PS. Pakistan is not new friend of the usa but has been close to USA since it came into being in 1947. India was chums with USSR.
It not like you’ve got top notch pilots anyway so what difference does it make LOL!
American airforce praises them as top notch—-uae and suadis hire them to fly their latest planes ( uae f-16 deal initially hit snags exactly on this point i.e. pakistanis would be flying them and away to china who might copy the latest radar installed in the uae version of the f16) but maybe they not top notch afterall ( why trust american assessment anyway). 🙂 🙂
oh, is it wrong to ask for a source to confirm this report?
i meant which bit you want source for???
article extract is from Guardian london report of the same title “North Korea shuns Chinese diplomacy”.
oh, is it wrong to ask for a source to confirm this report?
i meant which bit you want source for???
article extract is from Guardian london report of the same title “North Korea shuns Chinese diplomacy”.
Yeah and if Israel was gone the Muslims would just find something else to whine about. Your average terrorist might actually have to get a J-O-B and you KNOW that’ll never happen because then they wouldn’t be able to chop people’s heads off. Islam is an excuse for these ba$tards, nothing more.
I had the crusades in mind — there was no israel then— but u you got so emotional and worked up—you could hold down the top anchor job at fox news.
Yeah and if Israel was gone the Muslims would just find something else to whine about. Your average terrorist might actually have to get a J-O-B and you KNOW that’ll never happen because then they wouldn’t be able to chop people’s heads off. Islam is an excuse for these ba$tards, nothing more.
I had the crusades in mind — there was no israel then— but u you got so emotional and worked up—you could hold down the top anchor job at fox news.