sources please

what you need source for?????

You mean like nuclear weapons :rolleyes:
Apart from that, the old F-16 couldnt carry much more than Sidewinders and dumb bombs.

Yes i meant nukes 🙂

It did take Pakistani engineers some time but they did fix that issue too and f-16s were made nuclear capable.

But the Lavi was cancelled in 1987. It is true that the aircraft was advanced at the time in terms of avionics but that was nearly 20 years ago and there has been a lot of developments since then.

As I said, no-one really knows what the J-10 is capable of or what it is going to to be capable of once development is complete. The PAF might have access to such information but unless you have had access to their own internal analysis of the J-10, saying that the aircraft is comparable to a Su-30MKI is a bit of shakey claim.

Development of j-10 is complete i think that is not a conjecture anymore.
Chinese have been working on the project for all those years, if they wanted Lavi or f-16 equivalent then they would have been rolling them out for the last 10 years, afterall they did buy the complete lavi production line.

There are hints that it is what Pakistan needs to face the sukhois. Pakistan has the F-16s and knows them inside out hence if Pakistanis are too be impressed with the j-10s ( which they are with the large grims on their faces) then it must be concluded that j-10s are offerring something extra to the f-16s and the sukhois themselves are not a quantum jump from f-16s themselves( there is not a generational gap as such). Hence my deduction j-10s = sukhois. But then again we cannot be sure.

Maybe that’s because they wouldn’t be targets? :rolleyes:

No thats not the only reason. We have our own stocks of missiles and nukes ( pak, india, china ) and we believe NK has every right to have the same as well.

Next you’re going to claim that PAF never gave PLAAF engineers access to F-16A technology and that technology never found it’s way into the J-10?

There are no secrets between Pak and China ( Pakistan’s only true all weather friend). My point is that F-16 is a dated technology brink of being phased out of production, does it really matter if it is copied by anyone. US lawmakers deep down know this– they just being malicious and hateful just to please the indians.

Last time Pakistan got F16s from USA ( at the time they were the latest models too ) specifically and maliciously usa had engineered them so they could not carry certian munitions i.e. the product was not exactly what it said on the label. This time too i expect them to do some underhand thing ( so unreliable are the americans). Pakistan is not getting new F-16s any time, it will be atleast 2 years before first one shows its face in Pak, by that time i think JF-17 would be at par with the f16s usa is gonna give ( after doing some underhand weakening of the aircraft).

Best for the Pakistan to save the money and invest it on improving JF-17s and instead buy the j-10s ( which we know are at par with the Indian sukhois and the F-16s are not). Am sure if Pakistan offered China $5 billion they would agree to convert the jf-17 production line into the j-10 thus sorting out pakistan’s need for modern planes for the forceable future ( after all France agreed to set up a production line in pak for submarines for mere 1.7 billion ).