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Just wish I hadn’t taken a mouthful of tea before I looked at it…think I need a new keyboard
It certainly will, I can’t wait to see it, and no doubt it will influence how I spend my days off!
Thats sounds a bit like too much trouble TwinOtter, stupidly I thought it was just a case of swapping DVD’s.
Just had a quick look at the Halam planning permission, it looks really good, I see the unveiling is due for April, will you wait till then to add it?
Yes, lots of historically important Newarkers in there, and others of course.
Now there’s an idea, if I can get it updated and more self explanatory, that could work, and if we were in Hanger 2 again perhaps we could borrow the cinema for the weekend and run the film, although with the cockpits outside its unlikely anyone would want to sit for 20 mins and watch it, can I get back to you on that one?
Yes, it would be a shame to not include as many as possible, I’ll keep my eye out for further information.
Thankyou TwinOtter, that’s much appreciated. Must remember to go next week and to the Memorial to clear any dead flowers, although the area of War Graves at Newark always look very well cared for. I noticed that the Friends of Newark Cemetery have a photo of Herb’s Grave on their site as an example of the different nationalities in the War Graves, so I’ve sent them the link to the short film in case anyone wants to know more about him or his crew, its hard to know how to get the information to the people who may be interested.
We were hoping to bring our small exhibition to Cockpit Fest again this year, as we missed last year, but sadly my work schedule has put paid to that, hopefully we will get it updated with all the new information and make it for next year (if you’ll have us), and bring a whole new load of photos and information regarding Lancaster W4270 and her crew
Any further date for the Nottinghamshire Aviation Trail brochures as yet?
Sorry not a lot of information, but a start, this is just copied from Chorleys Bomber Command Losses Book for 1942
9th Jan 1942 12 Sqn Wellington 11 W5356 PH- Op Cherbourg
Sgt D Butterworth +
Sgt H B Cable inj
P/O A N Breck inj
P/O W H Burnham RNZAF inj
Sgt C E Morrey +
SgtB Franklin +
T/O 438 Binbrook. Crashed 915 while trying to make an emergency landing to the NW of Wythall, 5 miles NNE of Redditch, Worcs. The Wellington caught fire on impact. P/O Burnham RNZAF was critically injured and he died on 11th January while being treated in Hollymoor Hospital. He is buried in Ryehope Road Cemetery, Sunderland.
Not sure about having to be next of kin, I think you can get information if you can prove you are a relation, but not sure, someone else will probably give you better information about that aspect.
Hi, copied from Chorleys Bomber Command Losses : –
3rd March 1943
15 OTU Wellington IC HF906 Training
Sgt R H Millar +
Sgt L N Abercrombie RNZAF +
Sgt G A Hovell +
Sgt B C Lock +
Sgt S E Harmes +
Mrs E A Chiverton +
Miss A Playle +
T/O 2005 Hampstead Norris for a night navigation sortie which was scheduled to last for 4 hours. Not long after departure, the wireless equipment failed and the exercise was aborted. At around 2030, the Wellington was reported on approach to land, but this was abandoned in favour of another circuit. While so engaged, the bomber stalled from 100ft and smashed into The Bungalow, Common Barn Farmhouse on the N side of Hermitage, 5 miles NNE of Newbury, Berkshire. Three, Sgt Miller, Sgt Abercrombie RNZAF and Sgt Lock rest in Harwell cemetery, Sgt Hovell lies in Hammersmith New Cemetery whilst Sgt Harmes is buried in Guildford (Stoke) New Cemetery. Miss Playle was a nurse companion to Mrs Chiverton. They were aged 60 and 68 respectively.
But I’m sure others will be able to add more.
He would Peter, and he would also be delighted that his Grand-daughter is now so involved, and maintains the Memorial of which he was so proud
Peter, he would have found it fascinating, he was amazed when we found the aircraft, he was surprised to know it was a Lancaster 1, he was convinced it was a Wellington, a fact I wish I’d known when I first read through the Bomber Command Losses books, when NAM told me it was not a Wellington and I realised I’d got to read through them all again looking for a Lancaster I nearly gave up at that point. I’d loved to have shown him the crews photos, it would have meant so much to him.
Delighted! The more people that read about it, the better they are remembered. I wonder what Sid would think of all this, the whole story came from his common sense to keep that small piece of metal in his barn for 56 years, he would not have imagined all this information could have come from that bit of corroded fuselage. He gave me my nickname as well, he said ‘You’re like a bl**dy terrier, you get hold of something and you won’t let go’ a compliment I thought, and a quality most of us in this field share.
Thankyou x
Even after the number of years working on this small project, we are still learning so much about this crew and the relationship between them, only two weeks ago one of the sisters we have recently traced sent us copies of photos she has kept from her families collection, and we were amazed to see a Christmas Greeting photo from Herb Warne, probably one of the last photos of him taken, and one of Arthur Hitchon in his wonderful flying jacket, made us realise how close they all were and the friendships that had developed between this young crew. So yes TwinOtter please call while you’re there.
Thankyou Peter, and I know its been mentioned a couple of times before on here, so I apologise for the repetition, but following on from the 11 years research, and having finally found all 7 mens relatives, we made a short film for them to feel part of the rededication of the Memorial last summer, which can be seen here http://www.vimeo.com/14431980 , photos of all of the crew are included so faces can be put to the names.
Thankyou to TwinOtter too, for covering this story in the up and coming edition of NAM’s Dispersal.
‘We will remember them’
There are some on eBay – Item no 360344097197 from USA, think they work out about £16 with postage, but may take a while to arrive. PapaMedia.com have one listed as well, but is much more expensive.
Sorry ignore above, just realised its probably the wrong edition
Well worth a look, good luck with it!:)
Thanks for taking time out on Sunday TwinOtter to chat about some of the exciting projects NAM have got coming up, hope they all come to fruition and I’m impressed with the thought and effort you’ve all put in to cater for allcomers to the Museum. I was delighted to see so many people there on Sunday despite the cold and damp and so many from the younger generations too, enjoyed the morning!