You can download what I’ve found Historical and current in a PDF file …
Hopefully some of the blanks can be filled in.
16th June 2007 11:28
Chris, the Pumas they got from Romania in 1986 were IAR-330L, not J. J is the civilian version, L is the military version of the same helicopter.
This provides a list of what aircraft (and numbers) are on the SAF inventory but can’t offer numbers of aircraft in operational condition;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudanese_Air_Force
What annoys me is the fact that ALL western sources give 12 IAR-330L for Sudan, when in fact 24 were delivered (all Romanian sources give this number) in flight – 6 flights of 4 helos.
Now I’m gonna go to wikipedia to fix that. Some of the Pumas can be seen (apparently operatonal) in GE – I’ve found them before, I’ll try to find them again and post here some screenshots later
GoldenDragon wrote:
Externally, the PF and MF|J-7C/D are similar
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No way, they are completely different. The PF has a forward hinged canopy, small back hump, small chord tailfin and no parachute housing under it, only 2 wing pylons, no gun…..
Is the early version of Mig-21PF what the Chinese used to come up with the J-7?
No,it’s the MiG-21 F-13. They never got the PF.
And yes, they had a number of F-13s in service.
I dont know why Latin American nations haven’t purchased large quantities of these aircraft
Well, there are several reason for that
First would be the big influence US has over most of its continent neighbours.
Because they don’t have money (except for Chile, Venezuela and Brazil to a certain extent).
The F-7G derivatives appeared only in the late 90s-early 00’s, and since than only the 3 mentioned above did any significant buys. Having money, they chose better products than the F-7.
F-7s range is small for the relatively large countries in South America. On the other hand, small Central American countries are broke and much more susceptible to US influence.
What is most needed in Latin America are mudmovers for COIN and border wars; and A-37Bs, MirageV/Kfirs, Tucanos are much better at that (and most of those countries have them) than the F-7 which is mainly a point defence interceptor/fighter with secondary ground strike capability.
Just my 2 eurocents 🙂
Ok, Romanian Air Force pictures (especially MiG-21s) are not hard to find, but this is a true rarity. It is THE ONLY CAMOUFLAGED PFM we ever had. It was painted as such in 1995, to test the camo for the future upgraded Lancer A and B.
Those of you who are familiar with that program know that the Lancer A prototype who flew first in August 1995 had a 3-tone camo, as opposed to the standard 4-tone camo on the rest of the lot, which was first tested on PFM 8006. Picture taken in the late 90’s – early 00’s at Fetesti.
Sri Lankan F-7 serial CF-705
the recent aquistion of Russian aircraft
What recent aquisition? They only received some two dozen MiG-29s and 12 Su-24 in the early 90’s – nothing important since than.
googeler:
I assume Aircraft Slides identified the Nicaraguan AF H-34 as such, but even at this bad angle the nose profile looks like a S-58T turbine conversion.
Mike44
Mike, thanks for the heads-up! I must admit I know next to nothing about that family of choppers. And yes, the guys at military aircraft slides often mix-up types, countries,..
Omani Strikemaster in flight
New Zealand Aermacchi MB 329
Zimbabwe F-7 serial 707
DPRKAF MiG-15 pictured on 5 August 1971
L-39 is the obvious answer. There are still huge stocks of spares at Aero and with former military users, it’s cheap and easy to maintain compred to most of the types mentioned here.
L-159B it’s bloody expensive to purchase and needs a lot of “de-mil”-ing. It wasn’t even offered (yet) on the civilian market.
AT-63 Pampa? I don’t think you want an airplane that has been produced in a couple of dozen examples and has an uncertain future.
The birds delivered to Malaysia, Myanmar, Bangladesh, attrition replacements for India and Slovakia and those SMTs for Yemen were all built around 1990, part of a large batch for the Iraqi AF.
This may very well be the case for the Algerian SMTs – their Fulcrum Cs were also surplus VVS machines.
As for SMTs for Egypt, forget it – it’s not gonna happen.
I was under the impression that Plata was a podded system as offered on the Su-30MK series
AFAIK that one is SAPSAN-E