Can someone fill me in on current users of the MiG-23 and MiG-27?
Any upgraded examples ordered or in service?
Cuba – no more than a dozen MiG-23ML
Angola – MiG-23MLD, supposedly they went for an upgrade
Zimbabwe – a couple of MiG-23s from Libya, never used
Congo (ex-Zaire) – the same as above
Ivory Coast – 2 MiG-23MLD from Bulgaria
Sudan – a dozen MiG-23s from Libya and Iran (ex-Iraqi machines defected in 1991)
Ethiopia – something like 50+ MiG-23s, especially BNs (some upgraded similar to Indian 27s)
Libya – MiG-23MS
Algeria – MFs, BNs, to be replaced
Kazahstan – MiG-27 (a regiment perhaps)
India – probably the largest MiG-23/27 operator today, 100+ 27s are getting an extensive upgrade (including Israeli avionics)
Sri Lanka – no more than a dozen MiG-27s left and 1-2 23UBs from Ukraine
North Korea – I counted some 20+ on Google Earth…
This is out of memory…hope I didn’t miss any.
Edit: I forgot Syria with a large number of MiG-23 MS/MF/ML/UB/BN 😮
PhantomII, the belly of that Iraqi MiG-23ML was modified in order to take the Exocet – the gun was removed and the centerline pylon replaced by one taken from a Mirage F1 EQ-5/6.
MiG-23MLD wrote:
The MiG-23 fighter variants can carry AA-2 or AA-8s on the wing glove pylons but sems they never used AA-11s on that hard point pylon position.
There were other MLDs equipped with R-73 (AA-11) apart from the MiG-23-98 bort 36 white picture posted by PhantomII.
Pakistani F-7P and US F-14 OEF
IAR-93 Romanian prototype 001 (Yugoslavia had its own prototype(s)
IAR-317 Airfox – an antitank version of the SA.316 Alouette III, only one built in 1984, it was the first Eastern attack helo displayed in the West (at Le Bourget 1985)
Seeing the show reminded me of something I meant to ask here a while back, but forgot about: what specific visual cues does one reference to distinguish between the MiG-27 and MiG-23BN? They both have the “duckbill” nose, but beyond that, I’m not certain of the (cosmetic) differences.
23BN has the larger intake shield – for layer airflow separation (is this correct in english??). and rectangular intakes
27 has a very small shield and the outboard wall of the intakes is bulged
The Adnan-1 appears to be operational in Iran
Not to me. It sits without one engine in the north corner of Shiraz AB, among C-130s with engines missing – it’s clearly canibalised to help keep the transport Il-76s in working order.
Although,on the other hand,since it is a jammer aircraft,couldn’t it jam the Mainstay’s radar,preventing it from doing it’s job? Maybe thats why it was cancelled.
No. Soviet and western radars operated on different frequencies. A jammer can be designed to jam a certain part of the wawelenght spectrum.
star49 wrote:
there was some thing in Nov 2003 Flight magazine about SMT wish.
Quote:
Experts of the Islamic Republic of Iran’s Air Force have managed to manufacture a chamber [Persian: mahfazeh] for testing engines of MiG-29 aircraft. The chamber was successfully tested at the Tabriz 2nd fighter base in the presence of Air Force chief [Brig-Gen Seyyed Reza Pardis].During the ceremony, a Mig-29 aircraft following the overhaul of its engine at the Tabriz air base, took to the air.
Source: Vision of the Islamic Republic of Iran Network 1, Tehran, in Persian 1630 gmt 1 Sep 03
There’s nothing in that quote of yours about SMT. Since when regular maintenance of engines means a wish for SMT upgrade?
F-117 downed in Serbia 1999
Iraqi B-6?
Found some Iranian T-33s on irandefence forum
What happened to the Mig-29SMT wish ?
Never heard about such a wish of the IRIAF, but the SMT (or M or OVT or whatever MiG-29) is just too short-ranged for a country the size of Iran
I think its 22of Su-24,because one still in Iraq(?)and one shot down by US air force in 1991
Definatly 24 Iraqi examples ended up in Iran. No Su-24 was shot down in 1991.
Most likely they are manufacturing parts, otherwise it would be impossible to fly those US-made planes for so long. Besides, the world’s black arms market could supply some less sensitive parts.
Mirage F1: 24 intact planes from Iraq and a couple of Il-76s worth of spares and weapons for them in 1991
Su-24: 24 from Iraq in 1991 and 12 bought directly from Russia (in 1993?)
Su-25: 7 from Iraq in 1991 and another 3-5 acquired from Russia subsequently
MiG-29: 20 bought from the USSR in 1990 and 4 from Iraq in 1991
Minus the normal attrition rate (suppose 2-3 MiGs, Su-24s and F1s each in the past 15 years) I think you pretty much get the picture for those types.
As for the US-made airframes (F-4/5/14) it might be anyone’s guess to how many still exist, how many are in flyable condition and, most important, how many of those are fully operational.
Egberto wrote:
Those North Koreans can fight, check the Korean war.Asians can fight they are not Arabs- be careful.They held the U.S,South Korea and 8 other countries under the U.N alliance to a standstill.
You obviously haven’t heard about the many divisions of Chinese “volonteers” and the PLAAF and Soviet MiG-15 fighter regiments which fought there in the 50’s
Also this time there won’t be any trains running supplies day and night across the Yalu river.
Emphasies shouldn’t not be placed much on modern qualitative aspect of the game too much. See the chaos in Iraq and Afghanistan, things are falling apart
Oh really? So what do you suggest that should be done? Should South Korea build up an army of 2.000.000 people to outnumber NK? Massive WW I style infantry assaults?
The only reason why US and other troops in Afghanistan and Iraq haven’t been clearly defeated like the Soviets in Afghanistan in the 80’s is QUALITY – both of the troops and their equipment.