Interesting conversation Nash!
Since starting work in London I’ve had to correct these Essex yokels numerous times… There’s no such word as ‘aint’.
By the way, we had ginnels in Manchester as well. A tunnel like passageway between terraced houses giving access to the back yards. (Strange that… I typed yards without thinking. No gardens on terraced houses just a paved surface out t’t loo.)
One that has arisen recently is a cuz in Manchester using ‘mard’ meaning chicken/yellow. I hadn’t heard it in decades. Down sarf, I’ve heard ‘wuss’ with the same meaning.
Since starting work in London I’ve had to correct these Essex yokels numerous times… There’s no such word as ‘aint’.
By the way, we had ginnels in Manchester as well. A tunnel like passageway between terraced houses giving access to the back yards. (Strange that… I typed yards without thinking. No gardens on terraced houses just a paved surface out t’t loo.)
One that has arisen recently is a cuz in Manchester using ‘mard’ meaning chicken/yellow. I hadn’t heard it in decades. Down sarf, I’ve heard ‘wuss’ with the same meaning.
Two Let 410s and an F-5 fighter. Not sure what’s between the 410s though.
BBC news showed Canadian 18s going through Prestwick. Can our military not host them? No funds, no airfields?
I’m curious….. Why is there a reluctance to use port and starboard terminology? It’s not just here, it seems as though the usage of the terms is going out of fashion.
I recall a quote that the Woodford factory had the longest ‘through’ sheds in the country. Is that still true and how does that quote stand in world rankings?
If we can’t build aircraft in them, they would make a fine indoor racing circuit. The noise would be luverly! Just what Cheshire needs.
On the Nimrod I can only refer you to the threads on the decision to scrap. There have been a number of comments that each airframe has its own unique difference. Bear in mind that the fuselage drawings were initially done decades ago. I’d guess that they weren’t redrawn completely when redesigning the Nimrod from the Comet. From the same factory, I do remember the 748 drawings being redone to design the ATP and that also meant a change from imp to metric. Again, I’m not sure that the whole fuselage was redrawn.
It seemed commonplace then but in hindsight amazing to see how many times the fitters had to return to the drawing office as the drawings didn’t reflect a particular aircraft and I’m talking not just Nimmie but Vulcan, Victor, Shack and the other less numerous aircraft Woodford saw. I wonder in these CAD days whether everything fits together perfectly and gives good access for the chaps doing the job?
Also, don’t forget that a goodly number of drawings will have DOM (Design Office Memo) and DDI (Design Office Instruction) related to them with no mention of these on the drawings. All well and good when on the production line but will cause no end of problems many years later. Though one would have imagined that anything this major would have meant a new issue of drawings. Perhaps we’re seeing a related issue to the Nimrods where each aircraft was different by mm or cm.
Did all manufacturers have the same issue or was it just those in Manchester?
Technically speaking, the ICAO naming convention can either follow who actually designed it or constructed it or currently holds the design authority for it.
Fairly clear for most airliners but there are some crazy type/model mixes. Of course, if its your own file or titling on a photograph you can put whatever you wish.
To be honest, after working in the ground based aviation industry for 35 years and having flown on 20 + types I have very little desire to fly again. However, should anyone offer me a VC-10 or F-14 Tomcat flight I would be there! There’s a few which were possible in my timeframe that I missed the one that stands out being a Cimber flight booked from Humberside to Esbjerg which I was hoping would be the Nord 262 but was an ATR42. First flight of type but no chance of having a 262 now.
Never done a typical four jet airliner meaning DC8, 707 CV etc so would for the experience though imagine they’re all much of a likeness.
Still would like to do the Loganair Islands tour, looks good value, and perhaps the Scilly S-61, looks expensive! And would love to do a floatplane/ seaplane flight.
I did hear at the end of last year that there was a long term plan to move the Manchester museum Shack out to a current RAF base. About 5 years was the timescale mentioned. Whether there was any truth or if it was just a rumour I couldn’t say.
Some of the, non-military, discussion here takes me back to the interesting and perhaps alarming program on UK TV over the last two weeks showing how China has it’s capitalism spreading around the world.
Manufacturing industry and capability, in my mind, is what makes a country great. We have suffered through the lack of investment, demand for immediate profit, over zealous health and safety, desire to end a perceived exploitation of other nations and peoples. We don’t do it, others will. We suffer.
Some of the, non-military, discussion here takes me back to the interesting and perhaps alarming program on UK TV over the last two weeks showing how China has it’s capitalism spreading around the world.
Manufacturing industry and capability, in my mind, is what makes a country great. We have suffered through the lack of investment, demand for immediate profit, over zealous health and safety, desire to end a perceived exploitation of other nations and peoples. We don’t do it, others will. We suffer.
Is that a photo or a fleck of paint?