That is true that the Su-25 was from the start obviously built as a pure CAS aircraft and Yak-130 mostly as a trainer, but the Russians seem to have put an emphasis on CAS and Strike too for the Yak-130, for it’s number of hardpoints, range, and payload and especially very modern avionics I would NOT call it a joke at all. Though when you compare the Yak-130 and older Su-25s, alot of the things the Su-25 has the Yak-130 has it too, but things like the Jammer the Yak-130 does not carry, but I don’t see why alot of those things cannot be integrated.
No one said it was a joke at all. I think the Yak-130 would make a great advance trainer, however to say it is capable of replacing the Su-25 in the role it was developed for is something else. I believe the armed version of the Yak-130 would be quite similar to the Alpha Jet, which also was armed quite a bit for an advance trainer. However it didn’t really see much use in many theaters of combat, although I heard the Thais are using it for very low intensity operations against smugglers. But in that case I would rather prefer a turbo prop as it would be much cheaper to operate. However in the case of operating against Guerillas or separatists, etc.. the aircraft is expected to go down low (or at least in the Su-25’s case), be able to with stand bullet fire from bullets up to 12.7mm, and the occasional manpad they sometimes posses and the countermeasures to avoid it.
As for the Yak-130, it could probably be integrated, perhaps make room by using up the 2nd seat, but again this would require more development, and the current Yak-130 would be carrying all those counter measures that the Su-25 generally has internally integrated, on pods, which would take up valuable space. And if you’re intending to carry fuel tanks and these pods, how many useful hardpoints are you ended up with? Furthermore can it at least take ground fire?
Yes, Aermacchi put in little stronger American engines in it and I believe they also redesigned the wing and such for supersonic speeds, I think M-346 can go over m1.2-1.3 now and is definitely faster than Yak-130. While Aermacchi put an emphasis on speed, Yakovlev put more emphasis on combat, they increased number of hardpoints by adding wingtip rails which M-346 does not have.
No, the M-346 does not reach super sonic speeds, although it is faster than the Yak-130. Besides, if it went up to m.1.2-1.3, it’d be fast as a super hornet 😀
I’ve been looking for some heavy A-50 info, mind providing me with this?
I’ve already given you a link, look on ACIG, and then do a seperate search for the radar it will use and what has been integrated on it. You will be able to find it if you look under F-20 and F-5 upgrades.
Also, I don’t think it will be a problem to add a radar size of Kopyo-M/-F onto the Yak-130 and let it use Kh-35, R-77 and other weapons, I mean Yak-13’s nose will be able to easily accomodate a radar like that.
maybe, maybe not. But the Yak-130 IS a small aircraft, could it carry such large draggy weapons with such a small range and internal fuel that it’d actually be practicle? I’ve even doubts on the Hawk 200 as a fighter.
I like to refer to “goodies” as training, spares, weapons, ToT, support and etc that come with some aircraft, and most of the Hawks sold to various countries come with these sort of things.
Hawk is a very nice aircraft, and I especially like the Hawk 200 but it is WAY too expensive for my taste.
At least you and I can agree on the Hawk 200, however what goodies does Yakovlev give? Not everyone offers the same types of “goodies” as BAe.
Also, as for FTC-2000, it will be definitely cheaper than Yak-130, M-346, L-159B or even the Pampa and may as well come as low as a J-7E at around 5-6mn, but it’s not technologically as advanced and it’s combat capabilites suck, I mean only 5 hardpoints and it’s payload may as well as be under 1500kgs. It does seem to have a radar of sort but I am not sure which.
I don’t know if it woudl be cheaper than the Pampa, however as far as radar goes. I don’t think the prototype has a radar installed yet. But this would probably be better answered by Crobato.
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