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You mention they have money, I guess you haven’t read the previous report of Karlamov going into reserve due to lack of funding (and of course they don’t want to buy new turbines from Ukraine anymore). They still don’t have money and that’s the reality. If Putin wants to make Russia great, then he’ll need a LOT more money than whatever he is having now and the Navy really isn’t his only worry.

UDALOYS are ASW ships, with Kinzal and ak-630 for self protection. Today Russia needs multirole warships. Udaloys the only “positive” thing they have is the gas turbine instead of the STEAM in Sovremmenyys. But they are useless because are quite empty. NO weapons on them, look like the early Spruance, which had only ASROC, MK45 gun and Sea sparrow point AA launcher aft. In other word UDALOYS are 8000t hulls designed to carry the SS-N-14 Silex and nothing more. 8000t is too mutch for an ASW oriented vessel.”Admiral Karlamov” is waste of money to be modernized. They will spend money to modernize karlamov only for having one SS-N-14 floating battery, and nothing more? Udaloys must be scrapped, and Russia to keep only “Admiral Chapanenko” with the SS-N-22. So is obvious that the repairing of Karlamov is waste of money for them. They can invest these money in more usefull miltirole new vessels projects

This “Russian Ticoderodsky” remained only a PAPER STUDY unfortunately

New russian frigates of 4000-8000t class can be considered sort of “blue water”. Against Japan Russia dont need anything bigger than corvet – SSN’s , Tu-22 and Su-24/34 will take care of any japanese fleet close to russian borders (and of Japan itself too, lol). Also, calling “gunboats” a ship with a 200km range supersonic missiles is, mildly saying, underestimate.

The project 22350 is 4000 or 8000t design. Where is the truth?
Does any one has any image or line drawing of the new “frigate”?

Russia after Peter the Great is sea and land oriented country. Do you have any information about the modernization of “Admiral Nakhimov” 080 ? What will incude? New weapons? Neptune mentioned the “Granit 2 ASM. Japan’s navy is more advanced Technically and in size too. Compare “kongo” I & II with Type 45, Horizons, and F 124

“ADMIRAL NAKHIMOV” RECENT PICTURE

I don’t think that russian navy has enemies like japanease smuglers but the Japan’s navy. This country wants some russian islands and if you look their navy is much more advanced than any western navy except USN. Just look the “Kongo II” DDG 174. The 20380 hasn’t any AAW even point protection missile system except one KADS-N-1 CIWS. Why you love so much the word “frigate” and you hate the word “cruiser”? The reason of maintaining such a huge navy for Japs is NOT North Korea’s acient missiles and their 1950’s technology of army. North Korean missiles could be shout down even with ESSM, not SM-3. North Korea is NOT a threat for Japan. China has no serious problems with Japan, so Japs even now considers Russia as possible future enemy. Small frigates and corvettes will save Russia?
After the end of their life who will replace “SLAVAS” and “KIROVS”? Project 21630 gun boats?lol The ugly project 20380 “corvrtte”? I think that the frigate 22350 will be a failure as NOVIK before. Which ship will carry long range SAMs? The 22350 frigate of 4000t? The 20380 corvette of 2000t? Or the gunboat Astracan?
Admiral Masorin said that Russia at the future will develop aircraft carriers. “We need 4 of them not 12 as USN” Who will escord them? The gun boats or your LOVELY frigates? RUSSIA is not USA but also RUSSIA is not BALTIC state. Needs Blue water navy as well as patrol boats, not at the numbers that USN navy has but they need them. There is no other solution. Furthermore Putin’s Russia is NOT like was at Yieltsin times. Has enough money and the oil prices will help more the situation.

And also i want to ask about the last project 956U Witch is rumored to be as “gas turbine” combined “Sovremmeny” and the “Admiral Lobov” the forth “Slava” what will happen with them. Russians need them, these two vessels are real warships. The new corvette 20380 is a coast guard, why they hate so much the surface major vessels? Who will protect the “Boreis” and the pr 855 new SSNs? What about the naval version of S-400? Is possible for modernized “Admiral Nakhimov” to carry S-400?. Admiral Masorin must understand that the corvettes 20380 have no value. The 20380 are so valuable as Perrys FFS are for USN. The only need for Russian navy is to have “Russian version” of “ticoderoga” with land attack capability. NO corvettes, NO light frigates, NO patrol boats, NO fishing boats!!
Has the russian navy any serious surface future project? DDG or CG?