Not if you learn enough that the state-of-the-art of the suppliers are barely keeping ahead with what you can make for yourself already. If all you desire is that your foreign suppliers give you the most up to date stuff they are allowed to export, then you are only ensuring that you are at least 1 gen behind what your supplier nation is fielding, or at the very least well into developing, themselves. That is an unacceptable position for any nation wanting to retain any sort of true foreign policy independence, never mind would be superpowers.

Depending on derivatives of Gen2 stuff handed to you wont get you to Gen0 either. Thats the problem with reverse engineering stuff.

If you want to get the very best hand me downs, then be my guest, but just don’t dare pi$$ off your master, I mean supplier, else he might not give you your next fix when you need it the most.

Thats the problem with reverse engineering and making your own derivatives. Not the problem with JV’s where both side contribute technology and respect each other’s IP. Given the turnover in tech development nowadays, it makes more sense to codevelop certain items (and if you are truly concerned about the scenario where you need to make every nut and bolt on your own, pay license fees), rather than reverse engineering obsolete gear and then trying to make something better out of it. Not to mention that its also the ethical business practise and the right thing to do, and builds a long term relationship. Otherwise, each side is out to gouge the other, and it makes ample sense for the “other guy” to withhold as much tech as possible.

Given the size of that beast, I doubt whether they will be able to “ramjet-ise” their local AAMs. IMO, they’ll have to launch an entirely new program with more advanced propellants & what not to do so, plus invest in new fire control radars for their CK’s to make use of it. Till date they havent shown much interest in making their own radars, so it doesnt seem very likely that the ROC will get new ramjet AAMs anytime soon. Besides the fact that the Russians have more or less given up on their R-77 PD, and that the Meteor despite decades of experience from its developing firms, is taking so long to develop should also confirm that its going to be a tough slog.

The status quo does benefit the US to some extent, but based on talks with US folk, they’d rather the ROC took far more responsibility for its defence than it is currently doing. One example cited was of the politicians in the ROC, of which one party is pro-mainland, so it has scuttled a large US arms package on offer to the ROC for several years.

The AShM, if they can produce it in number and develop suitable launch platforms, could actually make a cross straits invasion more bloody.

IIRC there was talk of the ROC developing two more missiles,

A LACM/ALCM and an ARM – wonder what happened to those?

For long endurance combat missions, it makes sense to go with two seaters both because of human factors & workload complexity issues.

You do just spreading a myth, do you?

In English please. Didnt understand what you wrote at all.

That very flight was not over Israel. It was a run along-side the Suez-Canal or over occupied territory at best. The early examples of the MiG-25R and the ones from that detachment were early ones had problems in controlling the fuel flow in the afterburner section. Passing the red-line of Mach 2,83 in no real need to do so did trigger an investigation about that.
That brief dash did not damage the fuselage as Belyakov did claim and some other incidents too. But he did not note something about the 150 h lifetime R-15 engines really.
Maybe someone has the data of every mission at hand. There was a map in Flight international were all were marked with date, route and recorded speed.
Some time ago a did a scan from mine. Maybe someone do remember about that.

Basically, it confirms what I was trying to point out to Fedaykin:

– There was an incident wherein a Foxbat went near or over Israeli controlled airspace
– Some kind of trap was launched or the pilot got spooked
-He supposedly burnt out his engines in his effort to escape and hit M3

The last being a myth since his engines were not torn to pieces etc as the more lurid webpages say and he landed ok.

All said and done, the Foxbat is a pretty rugged piece of work, like most MiGs.

Nieve? Try not to be so snow*? What are you blithering on about?

*In Spanish – the only language I know in which “nieve” means anything.

He has started using colored fonts as well…hoo boy, you are in trouble Swerve. Better watch out!! 😉

^^^^^

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http://www.google.co.in/search?q=BROKEN+RECORD

Gee, what reply were you expecting Otaku? 😀

[QUOTE=”Fedaykin]Maybe it can but it arrives back at base with two wrecked engines![/QUOTE]

This is a myth which refuses to die. I think several posts were made on this very board describing the business of wrecked engines at top speed as bogus, all because of that one overflight over Israel thing which received wide traction.