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  • in reply to: F-22 Doing A Cobra Maneuver #2556708
    Nick_76
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    Love the Mustang and the Phantom..

    in reply to: IAF News & Discussion Sept-Oct 06 #2556721
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    I wouldnt take the article as a line drawn in the sand, coz as we know specifications change all the time…India was offered the Phalcon and wanted the newer one & got it. Its two follow on Phalcons could be improved more. Israel itself recently upgraded its Greenpine radars with its latest AESA modules. So the Wedgetail could also have the latest AESA modules, bar one generation- because development requires you need the modules ready for integration and debugging. Once MPRITP comes along, you can be sure that the modules in it, will be 1-2 generations behind the ones being bench tested..its the way things work. The choice of L Band for AESA is more than just easy to manufacture, which the article suggests- the band is just a good fit for the long range surveillance function. Other manufacturers have gone with other bands..

    in reply to: Passive radar on aircraft? #2556722
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    BIO, I think you are mistaken here – check previous threads, and you’ll see that for the LPI capability is not some inherent feature of AESA itself, you need to have a radar architecture to support it. What the APG-79 can do is have multiple channels (which its brochure shows), now each of those can support a group of AESA modules each group operating at a particular frequency and allocated to a specific task. But it cannot just keep jumping across a range of different frequencies at differing powers (power managed spread spectrum transmission) & then recombine the above to produce a LPI picture of the entire zone.

    So, is there a source saying that the -79 and 63 series have LPI? There are sources saying so for the APG-77, but not for the 79/63, correct me if I am wrong.

    in reply to: IAF News & Discussion Sept-Oct 06 #2556727
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    Thx a lot , found this –

    The first generation of AESAs to field will be the L-band (decimetric) radars used in the Israeli Phalcon derivatives, and importantly the RAAF’s Wedgetail MESA radar which is expected to be used in the new USAF MC2A (Multi-sensor Command Control Aircraft) E-3 AWACS, E-8 JSTARS, RC-135 Rivet Joint replacement. The lower L-band operating frequency of these radars permits the use of older transistor technology, giving this class of AESA about 5 years of market lead against the X-band fighter AESAs.

    The Indian Phalcons have newer Tx/ Rx modules making use of MMICs as compared to MICs which were used in the earlier Phalcons. Advantages include higher power/ volume. The IAF is confident that its Phalcons will outrange the Saab Erieyes, so it should be Ok.

    The fun will be in integrating the Phalcons to the IAFs interceptor fleet and ADGES, which is where I think the Israeli high bandwidth datalinks will be used.

    in reply to: Passive radar on aircraft? #2556735
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    I just saw the 79 brochure, doesnt seem like any LPI design to me? Seems exactly like a conventional radar, albeit with AESA antenna..

    Nick_76
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    Yes Wanshan, but I still think Iraq paying a billion bucks for all this is a ripoff…reason being that the country could have used that money far better to prevent its current low grade civil war & for a heart & minds campaign by replacing infrastructure etc. This equipment is imho unnecessary at present, with the US around! 900 Million could also go a long way to pay Iraqi troops properly, kit them out better, and train a new joint Shia SUnni army which plays together and fights together…instead they go splurge on all this.

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    What a ripoff! :p

    in reply to: Raptor vs S-300/S-400 SAM #2556782
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    Passive systems, like Kolchuga works only if the attacker use conventional radars for targeting, terrain following radar for low flying, or TACAN for navigation. An F 22 won’t use such systems. An older B 1 or F 15E would use them, but these planes will come only after the F 22 and B 2 sanitized the area, or would use ALCMs or JASSMs to stay out of trouble.

    A F-22 will use datalinks and iirc the Kolchuga/ Vera etc can detect these. The K says its got the greatest range – better than its russian/ czech peers.

    in reply to: Passive radar on aircraft? #2556783
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    I am not saying it will be easy or will happen overnight, but that it can be done. The fact is that for most opponents of the US, digital RWR capability is a long shot away. And even apart from that, how do you lock onto the F-22 and fire? Its stealth, at least frontal (from GAO report) ensures that even the best Active AAMs are practically useless unless they are right next to it in a manner of speaking, as if the F-22 will allow its opponent to happily shoot it, or for that matter wait for an AAM to come close to it (supercruise crank exists for a reason, right?)

    I think the operation is pretty much known. Use AWACs/ ALR-94 for info and fire. Or if operating without AWACs, and your opponent is similarly passive and relying on his own AEW/ GCI, you use the LPI radar in a quick spot mode at max range (RWS/ VS) get a quick look, sneak up, fire up LPI radar again and then shoot. Just a couple of squawks. Or have your constant emitter located far away (120nm detection in LPI range!!!) and datalink its info to nearby F-22s…eitherways the advantage is with you…if the enemy knows the F-22s are in the area and runs away, you have still won.

    in reply to: Passive radar on aircraft? #2556784
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    Depends on what LPI radars you are talking about also , provided the right software and loads of computing speeds and power yes , but the 77 is in an interily different league as compared to the -79 or 63 ( or even -81) when it comes to its LPI , and the damn thing has been upgraded ( yes they upgraded software aswell) twice allready in 5 years .

    The 79 and 63 are not LPI, and the 77 is still detectable…honestly today, with COTS processors all over the place, is there even such a thing as lack of processing power? The software is the tricky part, that & the ability to make sense of rapidly changing frequency agile low power signals and detect that signature..

    in reply to: The APG 63 (V)3 broschure officialy appears on Raytheon site #2556835
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    I meant the LPI. The 77 is a true multi frequency spread spectrum radar which can recombine multiple inputs from Transmitted signals at different frequencies @low power, the kind the other two arent! They basically appear to be upgrades of conventional radars, with only the front end antenna changed for a modular AESA array. The 63 V(3) for instance brochure shows exactly that. The 79 is newer, but it too does not appear to field LPI capabilities.

    in reply to: Raptor vs S-300/S-400 SAM #2557025
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    Hi Dj,

    But isnt the S-300 itself old hat? The S-300 PMU1, 2, the Antey 2500, the S-400 all replace/ complement the older system with more effective performance…and bar the S-400, the others appear to be ready. So how would the F-22 do against these?

    in reply to: Passive radar on aircraft? #2557076
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    Digital RWRs can detect LPI, software programmed to analyze incoming radiation & detect LPI signals/ patterns.

    in reply to: IAF News & Discussion Sept-Oct 06 #2557181
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    AESA, the Israelis make their Tx/ Rx modules inhouse..

    in reply to: IAF News & Discussion Sept-Oct 06 #2557206
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    http://www.india-defence.com/reports/2124

    New Delhi: The Indian Air Force is readying ground facilities to support the Phalcon airborne early warning and control aircraft it bought from Israel Aircraft Industries (IAI) two years ago for around $ 1.1 billion.

    Sources said work had begun at the IAF bases in Chandigarh and Bareily, where the first of the Phalcons, scheduled to arrive in Nov 2007 will be based. It is expected to formally enter service in early 2008.

    Another AEW&C aircraft, an IAI-built Phalcon ‘air-eye’ radar mounted on Uzbek IL 76 TD transport aircraft, is due in August 2008 followed by the third in early 2009.

    The ground infrastructure to accommodate the Phalcons is estimated to cost over $30 million, including hangars, maintenance facilities, workshops and technical training schools, sources said.

    According to armament industry sources, the Phalcons will be equipped with L-band active phased array radar mounted on a stationary radome developed by Raytheon Airborne Systems.

    They will also be equipped with a maximum of eight, multi-function operator consoles with 20-inch active matrix liquid crystal displays from BARCO of Belgium and two electronic counter measure/electronic intelligence operators posts. This would render the aircraft an airborne network -centric battle management platform in addition to its basic airborne early warning functions.

    India’s military is concentrating on honing its network centric war fighting capabilities to develop an integrated real time command, control communications, co-ordination intelligence surveillance and reconnaissance. The Phalcons will constitute an integral component of this potential, military planners said.

    The IAF is likely to exercise its option of acquiring two additional Phalcon AEW&C systems in order to expand its ‘operational envelope’ in the region and to deal with out of area exigencies. It is expected to firm up the order sometime next year.

    Another reason for IAF bolstering its air reconnaissance capabilities is the ongoing talks between nuclear rival Pakistan and Sweden for seven AEW&C systems based on a Erieye radar and sensor suite by Ericsson Microwave Systems, all mounted on used Saab 2000 aircraft.

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