Fortunately, that day will never come.

No they can’t.

The PLA is a collection of very disorganized, incompetent, and competing warlords, it is nothing like a national military like the US military or the Russian military. The training is poor, and the generals are completely clueless about fighting a war, as demonstrated by disastrous outcomes in Korea, Soviet Union, and in 1979 Vietnam.

Not only that, each of PLA’s 7 military districts(the territory of a warlord) are competitors for power who are happy to take out the other guy when the other guy is in trouble for some reason, so don’t expect any coherent joint war efforts between the warlords against say, the US or Japan.

Not only the countries you mentioned with the exception of Vietnam are protected by the US nuclear umbrella, every capable country on earth goes nuclear the moment China uses nukes against its pledge of “never first use”.

So China’s nuclear weapons is like Bee’s sting; you can use it once, but you die too.

Lets be a little bit realisitc OK?

Its pretty obvious to everyone here that when China were as nuclear capable as the US, then even if China nuked the **** out of japan, or any so-called US’ alliances there, the US wont drop nukes on China’s soil, I think it is pretty obvious to everyone here.

Althrough I dont think by that point China will need nukes to accomplish their goals.

And have nukes is a world different than have a creditable nuke force, for instance, it only take China a few IRBMs to nuke the **** out of any of China’s neighbours, and they will have at best a few mins of warning time.

But you cannot say the vis-via, since most of China’s neighbours, besides probably Russia, are estentially weaklings and easy pushovers, they have neither nukes nor deliver vechiles, and even these so-called nuke-capable countries still find hard time to make any nukes beyond the fatman level, so I dont think its bee’s sting.

I bet even at the moment, if China decided to nuke somebody, alliance to the US or not, the US wont dare to drop nuke on China for that, since estientlally the US’s alliacnes are merely US’s cannon fodders, so this is total unreasonable for US to prepare to get nuked for their cannon fodders.

There is nothing new in Y-20 but amalgamation of various designs. Nose Wings, oversize tail seems to me inspired from Antonov.

Dont be so desperatley, poor boy::diablo:

First, there is nothing new in that antonov design either.

And actually you can basically find simliarities between any modern cargo designs.

The fact you have to re-sort to dig many designs here and there to pile up a reasonable degree of similiarities to Y-20, suggesting Y-20 itself is quite original comparing to most other cargo designs. :diablo:

OK, forget it :diablo:

Yes, that would be reasonable. But to expect a Chinese [student] acknowledge anything except his own achievements would be way too stretched. You guys declare even J-11 or J-15 your own design, how more pathetic can it get?

I am sure Albert Einstein has acknowledged enough to his high-school phyiscs teacher, now get over with your fanboyism, OK?

They aren’t an aviation superpower. Their air force is made of copy cat planes and have nowhere near the experience of Russia, USA and nowhere near the planes or manufacturing capability.

If you use the same picky eyes to judge designs from US or Russia, you will find surprisingly there is no originality in any of their designs in the past 30 years either.

As for F-22, if we are all serious, we must admitted F-22 basically looks like a slightly-modified MIG-25.

So I guess Belenko or somebody is indeed help US aviation industry by a huge deal to bring the MiG-25 layout to the US such that the US’s later 30 years model of fighters all looks like a love child of MIG-25.

You cannot deny the fact all the later US fighter models. be it F-15, be it F-22, be it F/A-18, be it F-35, looks like MiG-25 rip-offs, and we can even go as far as say, their aerodynamic layouts are estientally the same.

In all serious, T-50 looks like the love child of F-15 and F/A-18:

In this regard, T-50 is indeed very originality, their desigin originality lies in the fact it looks nowhere near a true 5th generation fighter, but it can blend well with MiG-29, Su-27, F/A-18, F-15, F-16 generation of fighters.

To be honest if Russian throw out T-50 instead of Su-27, 30 years earlier, and someone tell you that it is the same generation of fighters as F-15, I bet few will even question about that claims, since they looks belong to the same generation of fighters.

As for MiG-1.44, well their design layout looks more comparable to China’s 1960s-era J-9VI-2 proposal, instead of J-20, and this is the case, since both MiG-1.44 and China’s J-9VII-2 proposal belong to the same generation of fighters:

This is the J-9VI-2 wind tunnel test model:

This is China’s 1960-era J-9VI-2 drawboard model:

You can clear see the MiG-1.44 design is nothing beyond Chengdu’s 1960-era J-9VI-2 level, althrough the cancard layout of MiG-1.44 is a bit outdated at the time, espeically comparing with J-9VI-2’s vastly superior leading-edge couping canard design at the time.

For more about J-9VI-2 design, check here:
http://news.qq.com/a/20080807/001192.htm
http://military.china.com/zh_cn/history4/62/20091109/15694109.html

http://english.ruvr.ru/2012_11_21/Su-35-does-Russia-need-Chinese-contract/

So China finally gets a hold of 96 117S engines for $1.5 billion.

Definitely more than 1.5 billion.

According to russian news, China has already bought a few hundred Su35, su-33, tu-22, t-80 and whatever russian craps for the past decade.