I’ll just shut up and nodd yes, yes
You don’t have to. You can continue negating whatever is being said all over the web by simply stating ‘this’ and stating ‘that’.
I thought Bellona was the online ver of the Northern Fleet magazine, anyways you know so much better.
So much for strategic concerns….If anyone here has any more strategic concerns this piece of news will knock your strategic socks off. Here is news clip from the Russian Northern Fleet Report on the ATV.
Blueprint of Severodvinsk class.
[……..Blueprint of Severodvinsk-class?
According to Russky Telegraph, the hulls of the submarines laid down in India are almost blueprints of the newest Russian attack submarine, the Severodvinsk-class,which is currently under construction in Severodvinsk, Arkhangel’sk County. Indian submarines reportedly will be outfitted with one PWR reactor with a power output of 190 MW. The same machinery is placed on the Severodvinsk-class submarine.
No information is currently available on the weaponry for the Indian nuclear-powered submarines. In the meantime, India’s friends from Russia plan to armour their Severodvinsk-class with SS-N-15/16 missiles……….]
Sweet lill things those are.
Russia still has its own strategic concerns.
They will still conceal certain weapons and systems for you, not to mention their communications systems etc.
Yeah….a hell lot of strategic concerns being exhibited here..
22 Feb 2002
Indian Navy trains on Russian N-sub
New Delhi
by Vishal Thapar and Fred Weir
New Delhi/Moscow, February 21: An Indian Navy submarine crew
has been training in Russia for the last one year. The training
included sea time in an Akula-II SSN nuclear-powered attack submarine.
According to highly-placed sources in New Delhi and Moscow, India
is negotiating with Russia the lease of an unfinished Akula-II Bars
class nuclear submarine. Work on this submarine was about 85 percent
complete when its construction stopped in 1996.
Indian Navy trains of Russian N-sub
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Defense News, June 7, 2004
India’s New Naval Ambition
Plan for Blue-Water Force Includes Ballistic Missile Sub
By Vivek Raghuvanshi, New Delhi
[……
As an interim measure, India is considering leasing at least one Russian attack submarine, likely of the Akula class, which would be delivered in about two years.
India also is building its own nuclear submarine, the Advanced Technology Vessel (ATV), and now expects to roll it out by the end of 2005, two years earlier than originally planned.
The submarine is the result of a classified, $1.5 billion program run by the Navy, the state-owned Defence Research and Development Organisation, and the state nuclear research agency, Bhaba Atomic Research Centre.
Either the Akulas or the ATV could be used as missile boats, Slade said.
“Akula originally was intended as a cruise missile carrier, but was redesigned for attack”, Slade said. “But it has 26-inch diameter torpedo tubes that could be used to launch missiles. Rough calculations indicate that the Indians might be able to get five or six missiles of six to seven hundred mile range on an Akula.”
With that kind of range, Slade said, India could strike about 80 percent of what it would consider a target in China….]
are you sure? I hear countries have problems with the fan blades of those engines not to mention lower life cycles.
LOL..how many AL-35’s are there in service today and with what countries ?? The problems you referred to were probably found on the AL-31’s.
Anyway, there is no actual evidence to corroborate the theory of rotating wingtip pylons. There are pictures showing the R-73 firing using the method I described.
How much more evidence can you provide on the Internet except for links or quotes from Articles ??
The significant difference between the picture above and the pylon mounted missiles were that the Pylon mounted ones could fire in both directions, whereas the rearward firing missiles (above picture) were unidirectional and range limited to 10 miles.
Why would you want to put TVC on a Mach2+ plane ?
So that they can beat the ‘crock’ out of the F-15. 😀
Did you see where that page said last updated in January 1998? That should tell you something about the accuracy of the information you’re basing your unproven assumption on. ?
Here is another link.
The interesting concept of rearward-firing missiles has apparently been tested on Su-27s, using modified R-73 missiles mounted on rotating pylons that can fire missiles in either direction
http://wmilitary.neurok.ru/Su35text.html
Whereas the procedure and the webpage that you are referring to and was discussed previously in this forum refers to this page
http://aeroweb.lucia.it/~agretch/RAFAQ/R-73.html

and that page was updated.
Last modified on: Friday, July 11, 1997.
what are the chances of D-30 turbofans of getting ‘TVC’ nozzles ??
Won’t it improve performance ? or is it too much for it’s airframe ?
Only the radar technologies
And what about the ‘generous‘ ToT offered to Korea ??
The R-73 in the aforementioned Vympel brochure seemed to be fired straight and then do a 180-degree turn.
Wrong both of you. The secret is a rotating pylon. It allows the modified R-73 to be fired either forwards or backwards.
The interesting concept of rearward-firing missiles has apparently been
tested on Su-27s, using modified R-73 missiles mounted on rotating pylons
that can fire missiles in either direction.
But Russia is trying to sell a down-graded version of the KS-172 to India that has a range of 300km.
LOL…the Russian version itself is not of a very ‘high grade’ thus the RuAF rejected it in the first place.
ok it’s not the R-37’s that could do the ‘reverse flick’ it is the modified R-73’s. And that is obviously due to a rotating pylon and nothing to do with the missile.
The production version apparently has a “nose cone” over the rocket engine (jettisoned on launch), and modified fins to prevent instability problems while briefly flying backwards after launch. The launch rails are fitted with gas cartridges to boost the missile backwards, so its own engine doesn’t have to overcome the aircraft’s full forward speed
Su-35 cheaper to maintain? I don’t know about that one. 🙂
It’s probably got to do with the AL-35FP engines which are pretty refined.
DAssault and France would be glad to give lots of technologies related to a massive deal about mirage 2000-5 but don’t dream of the rafale.
Dassault and France offered a ‘generous ToT’ to the Koreans during the FX fighter competition.
The Su-35 was the cheapest plane to buy and maintain, and the Rafale deal offered the most generous technology transfer
http://www.detnews.com/2002/business/0204/20/business-469981.htm