You can’t use DSCA notifications of FMS to calculate weapon system costs as has been discussed here many times. First, they are estimates, and second they include support, training, and logistics costs. Not to mention non-recurring expenses associated with a new operator or new version.

Hold on, I’ll post the justification book costs for the Aim-120D

In FY 2018, the Navy spend 197 million procuring 120 Aim-120D, or 1.64 million apiece.

https://www.secnav.navy.mil/fmc/fmb/Documents/19pres/WPN_Book.pdf

I used simultaneous equations and several purchase figures to cancel out the support equipment costs. Depending which two I use it gives $2.3 to $3m.

Wishful thinking i see Spud…
There´s nill, zero, nada, nyet, absolutely nothing on the public domain that you can present to backup that particular assesment of yours.

Read what i´ve wrote, the UK and Germany are not going to buy new batches of AIM120´s… Thats future, not past. And the “D´s” are for Dave, not Phoon.

I’d argue that he’s probably right as regards Rmin. Meteor probably does have a larger Rmin than AMRAAM as well as a much larger Rmax. But then ASRAAM has a larger Rmax than AIM-9, so the gap is covered either way. On ECCM and seeker he’s just guessing.

I would even bet that Typhoon will carry only 2 in most case.

The RAF standard QRA fit will surely be 4 + 4 (Meteor + ASRAAM).

Well that was my biggest issue, so thanks for agreeing on that.:very_drunk: I don’t doubt that GaN could be available for 2025, or most of the other relatively simple upgrades, but a completely redesigned dozen panel SPECTRA layout seems unfeasible given the timescale. And honestly, it has so many potential issues that time alone might not be the problem.

They could base it on the XG-40 though as I said, which is RR IP and essentially the same engine. But as you say, they’re going with a new design requirement. There was an EJ2x0 proposal stated with 27,000lbf though, part of the ACME II program. This is likely to require so many changes and retest that it couldn’t be deemed an EJ200 anymore though in terms of shared IP.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurojet_EJ200#Variants
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurojet_EJ200#Das_ACME-Programm

Could be testing a new IRST system?

It’s difficult to suggest anything other than lasers. DIRCM maybe?

You’re not going to start singing Rihanna are you?