So they will have to start making cars here to sell them here after Brexit.

Cars are selling all the time, after Brexit NTBs alone could slow the supply of cars from the EU down to a trickle, not to mention jacking up the price on top of tariffs, so car manufacturers left in the UK will have the competitive advantage.

And incur huge set-up costs that will add even more to the cost of the car…… and pay imports on materials and components etc. etc………

Think we tried it before, anyway, it gave us the delights of the Marina, and Allegro and Princess…… How about we set up a state car and build……………………… is the Trabant prouduction line for sale?

Set-up costs are not recurring, tariff and NTB costs are. Yes, the same tariff will have to be applied to some of the parts and components but manufacturers based here will still have a massive advantage over foreign manufacturers who will have the entire car (including labour costs) tariffed and have to pay for NTBs like SVA testing. SVA testing would also slow the supply of their cars down to a trickle as well, so they simply wouldn’t be able to meet demand or compete, no way no how.

Labour unions gave us those crocks of crap.

Apart from the fact that Mark Carney didn’t say that JG, which is why I give this cheap and unreliable rag a wide berth….. other than that and all the other mistakes they got it spot on…..

Now why is it when the narrative of a future specualtion suits your view, it’s stone hard fact, whereas when business leaders and intellectuals and experts in their field forecast future conditions based on their significant expereince it’s written off by you. Your biases cloud and inhibit any sensible and lucid reasoning.

Some business leaders are likely to be biased based on where their current markets lie and are therefore resistant to change.

What May needs to start doing is setting the tariffs and non-tariff barriers in preparation for a no deal. Provide certainty.

To stay serious here. There is also the High and low look down angle.
Something tells me the Su-57 will enjoy a slightly higher mission altitude vs F-35. So how exposed are the top IRIST Bump on the Su-57 from Land based radars, and likewise lower flying planes.

From the low-look angle the nacelles are its downfall. With that rear-end it could only hope for frontal stealth but the IRST scuppered that too.

Not lies, not fear, not made up, but sad reality anf fact.

It will gain tons of extra sales in the UK after EU exports are tariffed and NTB’d out of the UK internal market.

You’re welcome in this dream world. If a large internal fuel volume was such a huge benefit then everyone would build fatter fighters. :rolleyes:

People have been building fatter fighters ever since WWI.

Well here’s the marketing video.

Glad to hear today that the government confirmed they are stockpiling body bags for a no deal brexit

Do people really believe everything they read. Seriously? We can’t make our own body bags?

blah blah about stealth “magic”. It just means shorter time to detect and react for the opponent. Yes, it is useful. But if you ever went into a back seat looking down, even with doppler, it is difficult to differentiate a plane from clutter. Now lokk Rafale from above, pretty sleek shapes…

That’s the exact opposite of what Desert Storm statistics show as regards ground-based air defences. And modern aircraft can look-down and shoot-down with ease.