Worst thing they can do is to just tell you to “move along.” I seriously doubt it though, if you’re just taking pictures. Our law enforcement doesn’t trip like that.
It was not a very exciting match, to say the least. Typical of Italian teams, in my opinion.
Indeed, however, LH owned Condor and the designations were 767-330, which means Boeing manufactured them for Lufthansa. Interesting how once can lease an aircraft from one of their subsidiaries.
Every one but the 757 isn’t bad, though. Especially considering how loyal they are to Airbus. Lufthansa have operated every Boeing except for the 757 and 777.
And when is that, ACA?
BA used both on a pair of 744’s, as well. I saw the Wunnala one at JFK 3 weeks ago, very nice! Alas, no pic. 🙁
Ok, I don’t even want to get started on Olympic Airways, Olympics in Athens, or even political red tape in Greece, at large. The post would be so long, nobody would want to read it. I’m just going to make a few comments to some of the points made in the thread. First off, yes Zippo, OA has a great safety record. I believe you are correct in that they’ve never lost a jet and it’s been a while since they lost a prop plane. It’s also understood that they have tremendous pilots. Unfortunately, that’s where the ‘good’ ends. Everything else is ‘bad’ and ‘ugly.’ I’ve never flown OA on segments longer than an hour, so I really can’t comment on good or bad service in those regards. However, it doesn’t surprise me one bit, that you were extremely unhappy with your service, Carl. If you had told that story and asked, “Guess the airline,” I would have immediately known the answer. They’ve been operating at a loss for about 30 years. They have very strong unions and everytime something is done, it gets shot down, or there are strikes. They have too many people in management positions. They probably have 2 or 3 times more employees than they actually need. They have some new aircraft: 4 A340’s are less than 4 years old, A300-600’s are around 10, plus a few 717’s. However, everything else is old. They canceled orders for new 738’s a few years back. If some of you recall, BA sent in a team called Speedwing a few years back led by Rod Lynch to try and turn them around. He lasted about 6 months or so, because the poor guy couldn’t get anything done will all the B.S. that was going on! Ironic how OA brass (bunch of morons) claimed that the airline actually digressed while Speedwing was in there. Had that worked, it would have allowed them to join Oneworld, but of course that never surfaced. It’s sad that a national carrier with a route network and location (Greek islands generate lots of tourism) that has so much potential, is just so bad. In times like these, who has enough capitol to buy a financially troubled airline? No wonder they can’t privatize. I’ve gone on long enough, I could go on for a lot longer.
P.S. Carl, as far as them using the A340 on that route, they traditionally used the A300 to LHR, but they pulled out of Australia about 6 months ago, so that freed up 1 of their 4 A340’s to be used on other services. Since they only had 3 long distance routes remaining after that (JFK, YUL/YYZ, JNB), they replaced 1 of the usual 2 or 3 A300-600 LHR flights with an A340 flight.
I thought Gulf already flew to Australia? Emirates does for sure, but I recall various people down there saying they had flown Gulf to Athens and Cyprus? Unless a portion of that journey was a codeshare with somebody else. Who do they codeshare with?
I can’t answer the SFO one, however LAX offers a few places off airport. The place I’m familiar with is the Proud Bird parking lot, which offers a great view of aircraft landing on rwy25L/R. The other place that is good, provided you have a 300mm lens (so I’ve been told) is Imperial Hill. I’ve not been there myself, but I know where it is. I’m fixing to get out there in the next week or so. Up there, you get a great view of aircraft departing rwy25L/R. Now, if rwy7L/R are in use (which they rarely are), then each of those locations will have the opposite effect. You can also try the In ‘N Out parking lot on Sepulveda for approaches on rwy24L/R. If you or anybody needs specific directions on how to get to any of these places, please let me know.
That’s how I do it, at SYD, Ren. All those guys on A.net that take pics there, bring a ladder. I’m not quite to that stage yet, perhaps on my home turf. That 777 does look menacing. I never knew was wysiwyg stood for, thanks for that.
You gotta’ love AirFrance. It seems like they have operated every Airbus and Boeing type (I don’t count the MD-95, errrrr 717).
Don’t know about a matrix, but perhaps you can print out specs on each of the manufacturers websites.
Mongu, I think LH will order A318’s, for the same reason AF will.
Steve, have I mentioned that I prefer your Virgin Blue avatar to your QANTAS one? Well, I do. Good job.
Andrew, try sticking your lens right up to the fence. It will get the view right inside one of those links. Most of my pics from SYD at the beach are done like that.