greekdude1RE: Pic Of The Day-UA B744
I flew on a UA 744 just last summer LHR-ORD. I’m sure they get thrown into a few Heathrow routes occassionally. But obviously, the 777 is more common on the route nowadays. UA uses their 744’s on a variety of routes, but definitely mostly Pacific. They even use it on various domestic services, hub to hub. The recently substituted a 777 for a 744 on its LAX-AKL services.
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greekdude1RE: Who has the longest ?
Sydney airport’s RWY 34L/16R is one of only 4 runways on the planet that NASA deems suitable to land the spaceshuttle on. Edwards is the primary one. Not sure about the other 2.
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greekdude1RE: America West incident
Of course an airport the size of PHX has airstairs handy. However, can you use them in this situation? Of course not. The aircraft is at an angle for crying out loud. How are you going to pull up the airstairs with the exit sitting at an angle, and expect people to deplane onto that. That’s what the escape slides are there for. Also, America West was deemed America’s Worst a few years back and it was a very valid name. They are by far the U.S.’s worst airline for a variety of reasons. I’ve flown them myself a few times, and can vouch for that. My parents did recently as well, and had an even worse experience.
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greekdude1RE: New Newark Name
I already covered the NJ aspect in my earlier post on the thread. Please scroll up. Lastly, anybody confused by Newark not being considered a NY airport regardless of what the name is and also of its proximity to Manhattan, already is confused by it. No new morons will be discovered as a result.
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P.S. Since when is Patriotism bad? Anybody that doesn’t like or support the country they live in, should get the hell out.
greekdude1RE: New Newark Name
I understand what you’re saying, but I totally disagree on the cheapening of things, aspect. It’s not like they’re renaming it “Twin Towers International” or “WTC International.” The term Liberty covers a much broader area, and the term has been used to represent this county for years. For example, we have the Statue of Libery, the Liberty Bell, and in out pledge of allegiance, the very last phrase states, “….with liberty and justice for all.” So yes, it is being renamed to commemorate an event. However, the name represents a hell of a lot more than just that particular event.
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P.S. “Honolulu Pearl Harbour INTL,” actually has a nice ring to it!
greekdude1RE: New Newark Name
Slighty more logical points, I can deal with that. First I’m going to address the issue of patriotism. Mongu, believe me, most Americans are not as patriotic as you think. Yes, ones from the old school, war veterans, rednecks, New Englanders, etc., tend to be more patriotic. However, for the most part, Americans are probably as you described the Brits. Before I worry about any aspect of this country being too patriotic, I worry about it not being patriotic enough. Just to give an example. I was at a university graduation ceremony in Sydney, Australia back in April. Upon announcement that the national anthem was to be sung, everybody stood up in unison and I’d say at least 90% of the people that were in the auditorium stood up and were singing. I just looked around, and was in complete awe. Afterwards, I praised my Aussie brethren on how patriotic it was for everybody to be singing like that. In the same situation in the U.S., you’d get maybe 20-25% of the people singing, and that’s on a good day! As soon as I witness the Star Spangled Banner being sung like it was that day in Sydney, only then should anybody outside the U.S. worry about us being too patriotic. Let’s get back to the name here. Airports are nenamed constantly. This is not a new phenomenon, nor should the airport lose it’s identity as a result. About 5 or 6 years ago, they renamed Washington National Airport to Reagan National Airport. Did the airport lose its “Washington” identity as a result? Of course not. The code remained DCA and even though it was renamed after a president (a horrible one in fact), he wasn’t even from anywhere in the area! Reagan was from California, all the way on the other side of the country. Same downtown DC airport, different name. I don’t think USAirways was worried about marketing, nor did they lose any business because of it. Continental has nothing to worry about. I’m glad that you mentioned renaming an airport in England something similar. I was thinking about a comparison, but couldn’t find one. If the name of Heathrow was changed to Hope and Glory International Airport, not a single person in this country would give 2 $hits, believe me. And if you asked any Joe Schmoe if they thought it was tacky, they would probably say, “I could care less either way.” Therefore, if the U.S. at large wouldn’t care about the U.K. showing its patriotism in re-naming an airport, why the hell should any of you? Lastly, I’d like to discuss the whole reminder of 9/11. That day was indeed the worst day in aviation history. However, it goes way beyond that. The aviation aspect of it is only the tip of the iceberg. The name won’t be a reminder of the worst day in aviation history, it will commemorate all those who perished as a result.
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greekdude1RE: Europe’s Worst Airport?
I concurr Mongu!
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greekdude1RE: New Newark Name
[updated:LAST EDITED ON 26-08-02 AT 09:59 AM (GMT)]With all due respect Saab, we’ll never let it ‘lie,’ ever. Just like the British will never let that little war that ended back in 1776 ‘lie,’ to use your terminology. We’ll always be “Bloody Yanks,” and that’s perfectly fine with me. So basically, they shouldn’t change the name because everybody is used to “Newark International?” Are you kidding me? We basically shouldn’t change anything now, because it will be tough for everybody to get used to. Let’s just leave everything the same, in every aspect of life. And Newark isn’t NY it’s actually NJ? Uh yeah, even though, it is part of the NY Port Authority, and is actually the busiest of the 3 airports in the Port Authority. And why is that? Because it is closer to Manhattan than the other 2, which are in Queens. And yeah, so the name “Liberty International” is patriotic. I have a better idea. Why not “Statue of Libery International?” That sounds EVEN MORE patriotic. You know what, scrap that idea, lets just call it “Stars and Stripes International.” That way, everybody outside the U.S. would be offended? Why, because, the U.S. is being too damn patriotic. G.W. Bush should hold a press conference. “Ladies and Gentlemen, we are being too patriotic and everybody outside the U.S. is offended by it. Let’s change everything involved that is too patriotic, to something less patriotic. That way maybe, we won’t be offending as many people as we currently are.” Too Partriotic, LOL, WOW! I thought I had heard it all. This is the best solution. Whoever is offended by the name of the airport, don’t fly into it. Fly into JFK. Wait, that’s named after a U.S. president. That’s also too patriotic. Speaking of JFK, as Mongu mentioned, that was changed from IDL to JFK after Jack was murdered. I’m sure everybody back then complained that the name and 3 letter code was being changed. I’m sure it was a very tramatic experience for all pilots and ATC people involved. I’m sure they were further traumatized by the fact that were were naming it after a slain leader, and were sounding very patriotic as a result.
GD1, perhaps re-acting too patriotically, which apparantly is unacceptable
greekdude1RE: Flight’s to Holguin, Cuba
Cubana, arrive today or in a coffin manana, eh Keltic? Does have a nice ring to it.
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greekdude1RE: Pic Of The Day-IL 86!
Just a typical widebody with 9 abreast seating. Typically, 3-3-3, I believe. Also, I don’t think they’re turbojets, just very non-fuel efficient and noisy turbofans. The IL-86 had/has very disappointing range, which is why only 104 were built.
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greekdude1RE: Isle of Man / IOM
[updated:LAST EDITED ON 19-08-02 AT 03:19 AM (GMT)]All those Jetstreams you saw were United Express, they have quite a bit based over there. Although one or the other is being phased out in favor of the CRJ. I’ve flown J31’s, J41’s, and CRJ’s in and out of Dulles. I think economically speaking, it’s good practice not to put a flight attendant on 19 seaters. For instance, between my ‘hometown’ airport ONT and LAX, it’s a 15 minute flight. United Express used to use J31’s in the early 90’s on that route, while they were being served by Mesa’s Westair subsidiary. In the fall of 96, they eighty-sixed Mesa, and have used Skywest as their Wext Coast feeder ever since. Now, that route, and many others like it, use Emb-120 Brasilia’s that seat 29 and use flight attendants. On a 15-30 minute flight, give me a break! They stay seated the whole time anyway. All they do is give the emergency breifing and greet you on the way in and out. The first officer on a J31 did just as good a job giving it. I think it’s a good cost-saving measure without jeapordizing safety, reputable/non-reputable airline or not. By the way, who did you used to fly into Dulles with Wysiwyg?
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greekdude1RE: Isle of Man / IOM
Mongu, it’s pretty easy to tell the different between the Beech 1900C’s and 1900D’s. The D series have a higher ceiling so people can stand up in it without crouching. If you were to look at a pic of each, you’d be able to tell the difference, trust me. Not sure what the difference between a 1900D and a Emb-110 would be. I’ve only been on a 1900D once and never on the Emb-110, just the Emb-120, which I would think would be larger than the -110. The -120 is a very nice aircraft, I fly them often. Finally, there is an easy solution to why there are so many 19 seaters in the U.S., Wysiwyg. We have by far, the biggest domestic network, most hubs, and most regional aircraft to feed from all these hubs. I think it’s pretty safe to say that we have at least 20 huge hub airports.
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greekdude1RE: Airline colour schemes
Instead of Beafeater, how about Boodles?
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greekdude1RE: Isle of Man / IOM
I don’t think it’s just an American thing wysiwyg. I took the Sydney airside tarmac tour, and the guide indicated the 19 seat rule, and he didn’t say anything about it being “American.” In fact, this was the first time I had heard of it. Then I thought about how I’ve ridden in both J31’s and Beach 1900’s sans flight attendants, but the Emb-120’s that seat 29, do indeed have them.
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greekdude1RE: Help Wanted Please
I concurr, wysiwyg. The words ‘baby’ and ‘lite’ have absolutely no business being included in airline names, EVER!
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