Well, Sabrejet, I freely admit to being one of those taken in by Gillespie’s showmanship. He’s very, very good at spinning an extremely small and insignificant amount of stuff (of whatever nature) into a convincing-looking pile of … other stuff. It took me a long time to figure that out, but once you start applying critical thinking and normal scientific rigor to Gillespie’s many “facts,” well, they collapse like a proverbial house of cards.
Hey, I’m the first one to admit that TIGHAR is kind of my one-trick pony in here. The main reasons are that Key Aero is in the UK, and hence beyond the easy reach of US-based lawyers and their love of cease-and-desist letters, and that the public deserves to be fully aware of TIGHAR’s practices.
You look at a photo like that, scratch your head, and marvel, “How in the hell … ???”
Jeeeeeez … talk about a Freudian slip! Kool-Aid or Kook-Aid, I guess either one fits.
Vahe.D – are you familiar with the phrase, “he drank the Kook-Aid”? The Wikipedia entry is quite instructive, in light of what you just typed.
I too appreciate Peter’s efforts to help the forums stumble forward, but honestly, it feels like the forums have been left out on the ice floe to die as we were no longer useful, i.e., not making someone some money.
I’m not going to disagree with anyone on your side of the pond about the pathetic state of non-profit regulations in the USA, it’s been a source of dismay to me for decades.
In fact, TIGHAR was “visited” by the IRS in 2018 or so, after being sued by millionaire Tim Mellon in a dispute over what some underwater video at Nikumaroro did or did not show. TIGHAR’s IRS tax forms suddenly got much more descriptive and verbose about its “educational” mission and “young people” and things like that. But nothing fundamentally changed.
And as for pivoting to be all-in on the Earhart mystery … in 1988 when Gillespie launched his self-styled Earhart Project, you have to remember where TIGHAR was at as far as viability. It has been incorporated and given non-profit status three years earlier. It’s only noteworthy “project” at the time was the search for Nungesser and Coli in the Maine woods – and that was going nowhere fast. Gillespie recognized that if he was going to make a living at “investigating” something to do with historic aircraft, he’d better find a subject that was a lot more recognizable to the general public.
Enter Amelia Earhart. Despite flatly stating that he had no interest in getting involved in the racier guesses about Earhart’s fate, Gillespie went all on on his Nikumaroro Hypothesis. And the money and media fame have been rolling in ever since – Gillespie is everywhere on the internet, and if you look at total revenues compared to total expenses for 2000-2021, there’s more than $300,000 that’s not accounted for when reviewing the tax forms (which may mean nothing because of the loosey-goosey way things can be reported on said forms).
hypersonic, I could go into great detail and go on at great length about the shortcomings of our Internal Revenue Service when it comes to granting non-profit status to groups and then … not regulating them. J Boyle has done a very good job of covering all of the salient points.
Bottom line – in the United States, getting your non-profit designation from the Internal Revenue Service is a government-sanctioned license to steal. It’s buyer beware. It took awhile before I saw Gillespie for what he was – an extraordinarily good showman.
Vahe.D – with all due respect, you are blindly accepting Gillespie’s contention that he was doing science, and that’s why it took so long to nail down the provenance of Artifact 2-2-V-1. As J Boyle pointed out, the three decade-plus saga of that piece of metal is much more complex. And could have been solved long ago, but that isn’t the way Gillespie works.
For a detailed timeline, please take a look at this page: https://mffowler.net/piece_of_earharts_aircraft.htm
That wasn’t the main reason, dhfan, but, yeah, the questionable expenditures were a factor.
Interesting in an annoying kind of way that Vahe.D persists in writing about things he (? hard to say) knows little if anything about.
JBoyle – unfortunately, nothing new. But the deafening silence from NatGeo tells me that they have nothing worth telling.There were rumors that the bone fragments weren’t even human, but nothing official was ever released as far as I know.
As far as TIGHAR goes, Gillespie is busy shilling his upcoming this-is-what-really happened book, which will be available before the US group that found the intriguing sonar image on the ocean floor near Howland Island is able to get back there with a camera sled to positively identify it.
And despite knowing since August 2022 that the piece of aluminum he insisted for 30-plus years had to come from Earhart’s aircraft, Gillespie still hasn’t issued a final report on that debacle. Timeliness seems to be an alien concept to TIGHAR.
Gillespie’s sole focus seems to be getting his new book out there and in the public’s eye before Tony Romeo can come back with the photo that would completely destroy TIGHAR’s 30-year-old “hypothesis.”
Which, to me, says something about TIGHAR’s ultimate purpose and goal. It’s not a good look, but that never seems to deter Gillespie.
And apparently the marine environment in the pond TIGHAR is investigating is quite corrosive, as evidenced by the very degraded metal fragments it has found to date. Which echoes JBoyle’s question – how much of the aircraft, realistically, could be left to find? TIGHAR holding up one corroded fragment of metal and anouncing “The mystery has been solved!” has been repeated so often that it’s now meaningless.
Masterful overview, Mark. I’ve watched from afar as Gillespie has tried to trash and and all hope that the sonar image found off Howland Island last year is anything but Earhart’s Electra. After all, he has a retirement plan, I mean a book, to push over the finish line.
I took a hard look at Gillespie’s oft touted “preponderance of evidence,” and as you’d expect, once hard questions are asked, the story looks a lot different: https://mffowler.net/amelia_earhart_archaeology_evidence.htm