We have to live in the real world these days, and the real world, at least regarding WWII artifacts, is utterly ruthless. It’s ALL about the money. Scrapping priceless aircraft is bad, but what is worse, to me, is the maggots in SE Asia who dive on the WWII wrecks to get the valuable metals, There are rumors that any human remains found, if they come up with a piece of salvaged wreck, are either dumped back over the side, or in an unmarked mass grave on land. Disgusting doesn’t even begin to cover it.
Wellington285 said, “Why would he want to use a drone, to film what?”
They had to take a drone because that is what Glenn Miller Research Expedition member (and TIGHAR board member) Mark Smith does, he films things. From drones.
Like he filmed things, from a drone, during TIGHAR’s Niku VIII Expedition more than three years ago. For a film. That TIGHAR members helped pay for. Which they have never received.
ZRX61 said, “Anyone else find it odd that they didn’t release one photo of the wreckage they claim to have filmed?
Paging Mr Gillespie….”
Gillespie has already latched on to Mr. Knott, saying, “Yes, Grahame did a great job locating what’s left of the C-130. We discussed it at some length when Ernie LeRoy, Mark Smith and I met him in Weymouth earlier this month. There are still many questions to be answered about the circumstances of that loss.
Grahame and I instantly recognized that we are kindred spirits. He’s now helping us with the Glenn Miller Project.“
This should be … interesting. On the one hand we have a man who spent a relatively modest amount of money (including bar tabs), used low-tech equipment, a lot of brute force labor, and found what he was looking for.
I am at a loss as to why he would even consider partnering with a man who has spent millions of dollars, used lots of different high tech equipment (and wanted to use lots more if he could get it), has not found a single thing he’s looked for in the past 30 years, and along the way made more than $2 million for himself.
Apparently it was a bit too breezy for any substantive drone work in England. Imagine that … breezy … in England … in December …
According to Gillespie, “Mark Smith and I are now working on putting together the mini-documentary that will go to everyone who contributes to the Glenn Miller Project.” One can only hope that it won’t take as long as the documentary that was supposed to be made after the Nikumaroro VIII expedition, which TIGHAR collected an unknown amount of money for. That was more than three years ago … and the members are still waiting.
Well, the Glenn Miller Research Expedition has been back in the colonies for almost a week, now, and no official word on what was unearthed. Unofficial word, though, is depressingly predictable.
Credit where credit is due – the above image was passed on to me by yet another ex-TIGHAR member. You have to wonder which is the larger group now, the current crop of True Believers or the growing number who were drummed out for being “disloyal” or for, um, asking questions?
This pretty much sums up the current state of things at TIGHAR – Gillespie has declared, “the basic (Earhart) mystery is solved. Earhart and Noonan landed and died on Gardner Island (Nikumaroro), but there is still plenty to learn.” Which means, On to the next cash cow, I mean, Research Project:
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I too hope that it’s finally made. We need our heroes to be remembered, and this is one good way to do it.
100 percent historical accuracy is impossible to achieve, but I suspect Mr. Jackson will give it more than just lip service. And 99 percent of the people who do watch the movie won’t know the difference anyway. So – bring on the popcorn!
Whoever bought it, doesn’t look like you can see much at all out of the second seat.
I just hope it makes it over to my side of the pond, unlike Hurricane Squadron 303 …
J Boyle said, “Not to mention his own very healthy salary.”
I think “healthy salary” is a fair term for this situation. Even when TIGHAR was posting yearly losses on its tax forms, Gillespie managed to take home hefty salaries – an average of $142,783 yearly since 2000. That doesn’t include the $276,000 in rent he’s charged TIGHAR to use part of his various homes as his office.
Since there has been no public announcement of how much the Glenn Miller Research Project has raised, although Gillespie has said it isn’t enough, what, exactly, is he hoping to accomplish with this admittedly underfunded “research expedition”?
J Boyle said, “I hate to sound cynical, but if you’ve read about the group’s 30 year search for Amelia Earhart the story is depressingly familiar.”
Depressingly true. As the well-know acronym goes, TIGHAR’s Glenn Miller search is just more of the SSDD. TIGHAR has spent more than $8.2 million since 2000, with almost $2.3 million of that going directly to Ric Gillespie and his wife, Pat Thrasher. More than 27 % of the money spent has gone solely to their salaries. Yet – Gillespie has not found a single verified piece of any of the aircraft he has searched for.
Although he has unearthed a great deal of information about the fate of Amelia Earhart, few of his conclusions have been verified or supported by outside experts, and some (perhaps most) of the “artifacts” TIGHAR has found on the island where Gillespie thinks Earhart and Noonan ended up can be attributed to other people/groups. The most recent example of that is a sextant box, which for decades Gillespie attributed to Noonan, but which it has now been conclusively proven originated with a later US Navy survey of the island.
Calling this trip to England a “research expedition” is puzzling, at the least. Its primary purpose seems to be to gather videotape and drone footage to be used for future fund-raising.
J Boyle asked, “Couldn’t you interview the fishermen via skype? Can’t you ask the Hydrographic office what they have via email?”
Nope. That’s not how Gillespie does things. Doing things the most cost-effective way doesn’t yield the dramatic video and first-person encounters that give you the stuff you need for the really serious fund-raising. Gotta’ have that dramatic video and those thrilling photos so you can show your members that you are doing something. I’ve seen this time and again with TIGHAR.
This whole sextant box episode illustrates, again, Gillespie’s persistent “must be Earhart’s” bias towards virtually anything found on Nikumaroro. Another example, which ties in to the sextant box, is The Knob That Wasn’t.
During its 2001 expedition, TIGHAR found what Chief Archaeologist Tom King took to be “a small metal cap for a container of some kind.” By the time analysis commenced back in the US, that had morphed into speculation that, “This appears to be a knurled adjustment knob. There may have been a separate, smaller concentric knob that turned a disk that rotated within the internal channel. This suggests a knob for making coarse and fine adjustments to some kind of small instrument or machine.”
“Because it looked like a knob we started to refer to it as βthe knob,β and that was a mistake because it tended to prejudice our thinking. If it was a knob it was about the right size to be an adjustment knob for an aeronautical bubble octant and that would be very nice indeed, but we also recognized that our best avenue of investigation was the inscription cast into the surface,” Gillespie wrote at the time.
More detailed analysis in mid-2002 eventually concluded that The Knob was actually what King thought it was all along – a cap for a can of solvent, gun oil or something similar.
So that’s the radiator underneath?