Now THAT is way cool.
I’m just a little surprised (I know, I shouldn’t be after all these decades) that Gillespie would publicly admit to such naked ambition.
That ship has sailed, guys. Key Aero has made its bed … unfortunately, we’re the ones who have to lie in it, and it’s lumpy … with some questionable stains in places … and what the heck is that smell ?????
The Wayback Machine – at https://archive.org/ – is a real godsend to anyone trying to find “old” website or web pages. I admit it can be challenging to use, and just because it has crawled a website is no guarantee that ALL of that site’s contents are now in the Wayback Machine, but it’s a whole lot better than nothing and well worth supporting with a few bucks.
Sheesh …
Up until this latest eruption of Gillespie’s over the new sonar picture, I still had some lingering respect for his ability to use his media hound personna to unearth new or buried information about Earhart, Noonan and the 1937 World Flight. There are a lot of facts that are now in one (very disorganized) place that otherwise would not be. We can all use that information to better understand what happened and why.
But … it should be clear to even the most casual observer that Gillespie’s ONLY concern at this point is his upcoming Earhart book – and the payday associated with it – to the exclusion of all else. Anything that threatens what will arguably be his final work has been viciously put down by him with no regard for appearances or potential consequences. What happens to said book if it turns out the sonar image IS Earhart’s Electra?
There’s a saying where I live, “pig in a poke.” Has the US Naval Institute Press just bought one with Gillespie’s book?
J Boyle said, “To not admit an error for years compounds the error (and make one look bad). Another example of the group’s myopia on AE and [her] fate.”
It would be a little less egregious if this was the only time it’s happened – but it isn’t. Gillespie has done the same thing over and over, for decades. He always shrugs it off when he’s proven wrong about something, saying “That’s science at work,” but that is NOT how science works. Science investigates and incorporates new facts into a theory and moves in a different direction when the data and facts indicate to do so. Gillespie does not – his default position on anything found on Nikumaroro is, Must be Earhart’s and, This solves the mystery! until exhaustive efforts prove otherwise. A few examples:
These are just a few examples. Gillespie has shown a consistent pattern through the decades of seeing what he wants to see, and hearing what he wants to hear, if it agrees with what he thinks happened. That’s not how science works.
J Boyle said, “Did RG continue to collect his (reportedly) $200k a year?”
The short answer is, No. The longer answer is, Yes. After the IRS investigated TIGHAR in 2018 (no idea on what, if any, findings they made, the IRS seldom discusses such things), TIGHAR’s “executive compensation” which is mostly Gillespie’s salary, dropped down into the more defensible mid-five figure range … before bouncing back up to $118,115 in the 2021 report (latest one on file).
Long term, though, TIGHAR’s executive compensation totals more than $2.6 million from 2001 to the present, an average of more than $129,000 per year.
Of more current interest is the fact that Gillespie’s daily e-mail blasts against the new sonar image near Howland Island have ceased rather abruptly. Oddly enough, the same week the Naval Institute Press posted a preview of his new book. You’d wonder of there was a connection, but, nahhhh …
The horse farm is owned by someone Gillespie called a “TIGHAR benefactor.” It was supposed to have been bought out by Gillespie or sold to TIGHAR by 2018 – but here it is 2024 and it hasn’t happened
wk165’s comment about what the sonar photo might be echos Gillespie’s increasingly shrill but so far evidence free guesses.
It might be from any number of airplanes. The fact remains that the seas around Howland Island have never been heavily populated by aircraft. Gillespie needs to come up with specifics instead of randomly seeing what might stick on the wall.
Judging from the tone of Gillespie’s e-mail blasts seeking to debunk this sonar image before that group goes back to confirm it, my impression – and it is only that – is that he is very concerned that if it DOES turn out to be Earhart’s Electra, the discovery will tank all prospects for his new Earhart book due out in September of this year.
True, that would cut into his earnings if the book was cancelled, but TIGHAR has done fairly well for itself over the years. If you look at the 990 tax forms from 2000-2021, there’s more than $318,000 in total income that is excess of the total expenses. The 990 forms are not an infallible method for determining how and non-profit spends its money, but they are adequate for broad conclusions about where the money goes.
hypersonic said: “I’m sure the surviving relatives, of the crew, would have been very happy to provide DNA samples. For him/or a specialist working with him to carryout a DNA check against the human faeces and bones he claims to have found in the past. You can’t argue with real science!!”
That is just one of the many, many bits of its “evidence” that TIGHAR is no longer talking about. Which seems to fit the pattern of getting really, really excited about some random bit of detrius, stoking to flames of speculation so the donations to “help solve the mystery!” keep flooding in, and then … forgetting about it when it turns out the detrius is just that.
(There is rather a long list of things that either haven’t panned out (2-2-V-1, the ‘magic scrap” of aircraft aluminum being the most recent) or that are questionable enough to be meaningless (either the turtle/human finger bone or the bones found on Nikumaroro in 1940, take your pick).
mark_pilkington said: “Quick to pour cold water on any threat to his income stream, this comment shows how niaive and silly Gillespie can be when he lets his mouth run ahead of his brain.”
And he’s still pouring it. Now the story has gone global, see here for just one example, where TIGHAR is not mentioned: https://www.npr.org/2024/01/29/1227574179/amelia-earharts-lost-plane-howland-island Gillespie has issued another testy e-mail missive, basically saying that everyone needs to get educated about the real facts in the Earhart mystery. Because TIGHAR and TIGHAR alone knows what happened.
Well that didn’t take long. Gillespie is in full-throated defense of his hypothesis: “Many of you will have seen the breathless media coverage of an airplane-shaped sonar image alleged to possibly be Amelia Earhart’s Lockheed Electra.
It isn’t.
Aside from the reams of evidence that Earhart and Noonan landed and died at Nikumaroro, the aircraft (if it is an aircraft at all) cannot be an Electra. The Lockheed Model 10 was built around an immensely strong center section that featured a massive “main beam” that ran through the cabin and all the way from engine to engine. For the wings of an Electra to fold rearward as shown in the sonar image, the entire center section would have to fail at the wing/fuselage junctions – and that’s just not possible.”
There’s more: “If the sonar image shows an airplane it’s most likely one of several 1950s-era swept-wing carrier-based types Fuel exhaustion and “cold cat shot” accidents were not uncommon. In such deep water, salvage would be out of the question.”
It IS true catapult accidents or running out of gas were not uncommon problems at the dawn of jet-powered naval aviation, but … Look at where this sonar target is. It’s beyond unlikely for a US aircraft carrier to be in those parts, at that time, and Gillespie says this without a shred of proof offered.
And for Gillespie (who is not a structural engineer) to make a blanket assertion that the Electra can or cannot fold up a certain way upon hitting the ocean falls into the “coulda-shoulda-woulda” category of speculation that he roundly dismisses when anyone engages in it on the TIGHAR forums.
I stand corrected re, Gillespie: “We know what happened. There’s no mystery anymore.”
It will indeed be interesting to see how that sentiment changes if this new group finds the Electra … especially if they find it before Gillespie’s book comes out.
Some amazing footage!