s/n and c/n
ausome info! is it true the avionics and cockpit of the MiG-23BN were bought up to MiG-21-2000 standard? would love to know the extent of the updates carried out to the ethiopian machines! π
BTW can u tell me of the ethiopian roundel is on both upper wings or just on the left upper wing? – been dying to find this out for a scale model! π would love to see any pics you have!
lol nadew, i never knowticed the flare buckets in that picture, so i guess there on both sides!
when i get home ill check to see if i have a modified mig-21 pic!
Very interesting JETMAN-2.
But do you also have information about aircraft serials and construction numbers?
Rgd,
Jeroen Nijmeijer
Holland
Just back from a 10-day aviation trip to Russia….
…as well as visits to Chornoye, Chkalovskaya, Temryuk, Vnukovo, etc etc…
The full trip report is at :-
http://www.flankers-site.co.uk/moscow_2008.html
Enjoy….
Ken
Hi,
Nice pictures Ken.
But did you also read construction numbers at the Temryuk military museum?
Rgd,
Jeroen Nijmeijer
Holland
PS: … perhaps finally with Hanetoβs help something more correct can be published later after the translation of that fine Chinese J-7 booklet !!
Hi Deino,
Can you tell me something more about this Chinese J-7 booklet?
Rgd,
Jeroen
[QUOTE=Jakepilot;1205224]Hi guys,
at first, big thanks for all the pics you posted lately, that Hurghada F-7 is amazing. I found this on Airliners.net:
Γts a “computer” picture π
Rgd,
Jeroen Nijmeijer
SFRG
Holland
Having pictures that have not been published before is important but the text (including the pictures caption) also is important (at least for me). For instance, Y. Arsenyev and D. Baranov’s article about the 2nd generation MiG-21 states the serial numbers from which various improvements have been introduced (introduction of the KM-1 seat and the two-piece canopy with airframe 941221, etc). To me, such informations should appear in a serious monography.
I which issue of M-hobby was this article published?
Rgd,
Jeroen Nijmeijer
Holland
OK, deal! I`ll try to sneak under sukhois next weekend…:)
Deal π
It depends what Mig and Sukhoi construction numbers you are talking about.
All over the world from MiG-15 till MiG-29 and from Su-7 till Su-35 π
Rgd,
Jeroen Nijmeijer
Holland
L-29
Correct they are L-39s indeed !!!!!
Angola received some L-29 aircraft !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rgd,
Jeroen Nijmeijer
Soviet Fighters Research Group
Holland
Stratusaurus
Thanks for the pictures of that MiG-21F, that is taken at Parque Lenin in a Museum that is there , with some other planes like a Mi-8, An-24/26 and a AN-2, if you go to Google earth you can see them
Someone going to Cuba this summer?
The c/n of this MiG-21F-13 has not been checked yet π
If you need any info about where to find this c/n, just asked π
Rgd,
Jeroen Nijmeijer
Soviet Fighters Research Group
Holland
Thanks for the nice info Luis π
The MiG-23MF arrived to Cuba in 1980 with a total of 14 MiG-23MF serials 810-823 and 2 Mig-23UB serials 702-703.
MiG-23MF 822 is preserved in the museum.
This MiG-23MF has line number 13710. So this aircraft was built in late 1981 :confused:
Line number 13410 (Polish AF MiG-23MF 012, c/n 0390221012) has mfd 27aug81.
The MiG-23ML one squadron got to Cuba in mid 1983 with 12 MiG-23ML serials 210-221 and two MiG-23UB serial 706-707, the Soviet Union put two more MiG-23ML squadrons in Angola, that were property of the Cubans, at least 17 MiG-23ML and 1 MiG-23UB lost in combat or accidents in Angola, with only 7 MiG-23ML and 1 MiG-23UB coming back to Cuba after the Angolan war.
MiG-23ML 223 is preserved in the museum.
This MiG-23ML has line number 11223. So this aircraft was built around 1980. Maybe ex SovAF ?
If this aircraft was not ex SovAF, than Cuba was one of the first export MiG-23ML users.
Delivered to Cuba 12 MiG-23ML plus some 7 “ex Angola war” MiG-23ML.
But 36 Cuban MiG-23ML serials are known (210 – 245)!
MiG-23ML 243 was seen on 15dec96 in Havana.
The last MiG-23 at the museum is MiG-23UB 706.
This aircraft has export c/n A1038407. This MiG-23UB was delivered in 1984 to Cuba.
Please if someone wants to used any part of these, ask for permition first, I hava lots more info.
What do you know about MiG-21 and MiG-29 deliveries to Cuba?
Rgd,
Jeroen Nijmeijer
Soviet Fighters Research Group
Holland
If you haven’t found the maker’s plate, you haven’t completed the job
Whats the difference between U-600 and UM?
A lot of differences π
Just google the internet and I am sure you will find it π
What happend to all those Yugoslav MiG-21F-13 (40) and MiG-21PFM (36) aircraft. Only few examples of both MiG-21 types can still be found in Serbia. All others scrapped / crashed ?????????????
Rgd,
Jeroen
Couple of photos of T-33 trainers and target towers.
Also Mig-21 UM in the early 1980s.
It is a MiG-21U-600 π
Rgd,
Jeroen
Well i guess we could open a new thread.What time periods did you have specifically in mind?
Hello,
Some more old MiG-21 pictures should be nice !
And what about export Galebs, Jasterbs and Super Galebs?
Rgd,
Jeroen
Hello dear Nijmeijer
It so if to trust pictures ACIG.org
http://www.acig.org/artman/publish/article_262.shtml
However Egyptian MiG-21F-13 up to 1967 I at all have not found PHOTOS.
There is a photo from 1969, 26th Sqn, “5843”. (History of Aviation #3/2001)
By number it is the plane from the second set received in 1963.
In this photo aerials of system “Chrom” are clearly visible.
Hello,
I have found a picture of an Egypt AF MiG-21F-13 in a book which has the “Magniy” aerial (MiG-21F-13 5006 pictured on 26 October 1964).
I think this IFF system is also known as SRO-1 Bariy-M.
The picture of MiG-21F-13 5843 was not taken in 1969 but I think in 1981.
It was first published in Air International april 1982 (in full colour) and was taken by Denis Hughes.
Rgd,
Jeroen Nijmeijer
Holland
dear Jeroen Nijmeire
There is only one photo for Mig-21f-13 with serial 533.and the othere photos for mig -15
and 17 and 19 and su-20 and 22 and older aircraft I hope that I can post some of these
photo and some of these back to 1931 and 1940s and 1950s.
Thanks for the info.
Maybe you could also give the serials of the other MiGs and Sukhoi’s?
Rgd,
Jeroen
I spoke about it in previous post π
It is authentically known, that system “Magniy” which aerial was above a fuselage, had the early export series received by Indonesia in 1962, by India and Finland in 1963.
Egypt also received some MiG-21F-13 aircraft with the “Magniy” aerial.
Rgd,
Jeroen Nijmeijer
Holland