Can you imagine this happening anywhere else? Never. Captive trials for months on end, leading to a passive drop with twenty camera planes in pursuit and after two years a live firing followed by a 24 month opeval- you know the usual cr@p.
things are different when you are at war
…based upon what? Please enlighten me.
No US agreement needed for engine and missiles ?
F8s retired in 1999. They still looked pretty decent back then, considering they logged 148000 flight hours.
lol, Come on ! they are 40 years old aircrafts that have suffered years of carrier stress (expecially carrier landing and salt atmosphere)
The french navy first plan was to retire them in 1977…Thanks to new wings and some structural tests, they were able to postpone the date until 1993. And finally they kept them until 1999 which was the ultimate date possible for safety reasons : The french lost 27 of their 42 F-8 during their 35 years of operational service.
You still want French F-8 ?
Take them, the navy asks 1 euro for each airframe and I’m sure they will give you a few etendard IV for free :rolleyes: :

PS : these are all the french F-8 left, the rest is in museums
Mirage IIIV and G4/G8
indeed 🙂
Too bad the 4000 was not chosen. 🙁
And the typhoon is a bit short leg for the IAF I think.
Assembly lines are modular…
Dassault is even building mirage and rafale in the same factory.
BTW, the existing rafale assembly line is far from its full production rate (less than 1 rafale / month now)…so…
I think so too but it would take forever to build a large amount of Rafales.
Why ?
Dassault factories are at a very low production rate building only the french aircrafts… they would be very happy to increase the rate. It will not be a problem at all ! just replace the mirage 2000 assembly line by a rafale one, et voila !
It is named EMTI (MDPU for modular data processing unit in english)
As its name states it is a modular system in charge of the fusion sensor processing, mission and trajectories calculations.
This system is not present on the 10 first rafale M (F1), only on F2 rafale. Moreover, it should be upgraded on F3 rafale.
With the tech transfert and training programs that are offered, each aircraft will probably cost a lot more than that.
I think it is interesting to compare this eurofighter order with the last rafale order :
Eurofighter tranche 2 :
– 236 jets
– €13 billion
– €55.08 million “fly away” unit cost
Rafale F3 :
– 59 jets
– €3.1 billion
– €52.5 million “fly away” unit cost
As we can see, The typhoon is a bit more expessive (€2.5 million) even with an order 4 times bigger.
Well, it is a known fact that our british friends like to take over successfull europan projects. 😀
But you know, Germany and France do the same 🙂
The A380 is not British, nor french, nor german nor spanish etc…
It is eu-ro-pe-an and we all should be proud of it 😎
So they just flew with one wing or only half a forward fuselage?
yea, cheater ! :p
Or may be they flew with a half empty internal fuel tank :confused:
In fact nobody know.
UK advertise everybody has been impressed…blablabla…even rafale team has been impressed…blabla… but actually, the 3 evaluations are secrets… therefore all “leaks” are only …well…blabla
Please tell us all when the Airframe for the Su-30 came into service
The su-30 airframe comes directly from the 70’s su-27UB airframe (crappy according to you ?)… that is what I meant. But you get it anyway.
They did it with ease on a normal hot day. And they seem to have hit a bit more then just Mach 1.0.
Well, ground T° is not very important if the typhoon was flying above 10000 ft during the test… 😉
