hhmm i’m no expert in orbital mechanics i will admit, however the altitude of the Sat the yanks plan to shoot down will be so low when its just about to re-enter that nothing uses that ‘area of space’ for want of a better term, so the debris is just going round the earth essentially harmlessly before eventually burning up. Now the shootdown of a Sat by the Chinese was some 800km from what i remember in the same orbital plane as that used by other Sats. i’m gonna go look into this some more to try and find more info on it all (read as i’m going to try an educate myself on this lol) . So i might be back telling you all what i said is rubbish, wouldn’t suprise me if it was 😉 Edit: 2317 pieces of the remains of the Chinese sat shown orbiting the earth in this image. It reportadly took the Chinese three attempts too to hit it. And it was 865km up.it increased the amount of orbital debris by 22%, not good.

I never knew the Chinese satellite was that big to cover that much of the orbit of the Earth in that pic. Chinese rocket technology must be superior to everyone’s if they can get a satellite into orbit with enough material on it to blanket like 20% of Earth. Maybe that’s why the Earth is going through a cold spell. It’s certainly been a colder winter than usual where I live. The damn Chinese caused another ice age by hitting that satellite.

Like I read in another forum that someone pointed out. How can they track all that debris? They say most of it is the size of a pebble. A pebble is about the size of a bee. Isn’t a bee the supposed radar signature of a Raptor? So if they can track a pebble-sized object 500miles away, how hard is it to track an F-22. 22% my a**! Now all of the sudden the “inferior” Chinese have this massive lift capability that they can add 22% garbage into space with one shot? What I’ve read it’s less than 1% and that’s considered negligible. I’ve read various estimates on how many pieces of debris from thousands to up to around 20,000. That’s a big difference for this supposed capability to track all this debris. You’d figure they could be a little more exact.

Give it up. You’re back tracking.

And according to Richard Fisher, applied to a ballistic missile defense system, it would be a step ahead anything the US has conducted.

Unguided, untracked and all by a mathematical shot in the dark on a target zooming around the Earth. And that’s not some feat in itself?

Actually, as per the Chief of the Indian Space Research Organization, Mr. Madhavan Nair, such a test is not difficult. As per this news report, he has stated that it is “no big deal” for India to also perform such a test as its rockets too can reach that altitude.

It may be noted that as of 2000, India was developing a beam weapon that could potentially severely damage the electronics components of satellites and ballistic missiles by sending a highly concentrated pulse of EMI.
The KALI-5000 has already been used in the study of the trajectory of ballistic missiles, and in the testing of the vulnerability of electromagnetics in the Tejas combat jet.

This beam weapon need not be placed into space, but can be on the ground itself. However, after 2000, work on this system has been classified.

Reference :-

http://www.indianexpress.com/res/web/pIe/ie/daily/19990819/ige19013.html

Sorry but developing nations are known to dish a lot of bull. Especially in regards to international rivalry rhetoric between your two nations. So I’ll go with the facts and not statements or what’s said on paper.

Lame attempt at humor. I’m sure all the idiots are slapping their knees in laughter. Didn’t I read somewhere that Newsmax claims China is the real leader of Al Qaeda and engineered September 11? Osama is just a front man like Saddam’s look alikes.

Hmmmm. Maybe some people are actually dumb enough to believe China shot down Santa Claus.

Which is really a shame. The guy with the lack of scruples has an advantage handed to him by default.

Like My Lai. :diablo:

The Pentagon has certainly filled their quota of cover-ups and then some, but I don’t recall them ever claiming that the F-22 was invulnerable. Of course it is not, and the fact that the F-22 has taken some simulated losses in training exercises is public knowledge, although none of the losses has revealed any heretofore unknown weaknesses.

Plenty of people make it sound invulnerable. I don’t think anyone “official” would dare say such a thing but it’s said by everyone else… politicians, pilots, fanboys, etc.

“Simulated losses” works both ways. You can use that “simulated” record to hold up but it also means it hasn’t gone through real combat against a capable pilot. You can say the US with it’s modern technology has never encounter a worthy opponent to test all that skill and technology.

Everything does, but you said that fear was its greatest weapon, which implies (whether you intended this or not) that as long as the enemy doesn’t fear it, then it’s not as good as claimed.

What I meant about fear as its greatest weapon was that since no one other than the US has F-22s, fear of facing the “invulnerable” F-22 works more now as a weapon than anything else. So why export it and have it exposed to potential adversaries that can test what they can do by having it fly near their borders. Before they said the same things about the F-117. The Kosovo war saw one get shot down. Articles have said the Serbs were hearing the F-117s fly over and through trial and error and constant adjustment shot one down. The same thing can be applied to the F-22 flown near the air space of a potential adversary. If no one has them except the US and are flown only away from possible surveillance, no one will ever know and learn until maybe it’s too late for them to do anything.

Well, the F-22 is so advanced, but nobody in their right mind would assume that everyone else is too stupid to exploit highly technical knowledge of its inner workings.

I’m contracting because the information I hear contradicts. How many times have we heard how this country or that country doesnt have this or that capability. If that were true why fear the F-22 being exposed. See… contradiction. That why my ID is Devils Advocate.

Like what? I’m sure they’d love to know how the F-22 can target them from so far away without being detected, but they’re not going to find out this way. Or is that still a question?

Just being a devil again. I hear much hype about the MKI too. Some say it’s the best fighter in the world. Let’s see.