The whole question of which missile was it or whether it was a dud or not is not the most important point here. It’s the fact an enemy missile penetrated the defenses of an advanced Western warship. I find it interesting that excuses are made like the defenses were turned off. Interesting since the Israeli military has the reputation of being the most experience force in the world. They didn’t see the enemy in possession of such hardware so their guard was down? Well how about the terrorist tactic of driving a small boat up loaded with explosives. Were they ready for that? I saw the video of supposedly the missile striking the ship at sea. It was night and that missile was like a flare shooting across the sky before you saw the explosion. If that’s what it’s like, no one on the ship saw that coming? Someone in another forum said his friends in the US Navy were all called into emergency meetings right after the incident. I don’t think it was about figuring out what happened with the warhead.

That is my opinion, too, but I normally don’t say it that clear. there are so manny MiG-happy people around here who still believe in the final Russian aircraft to come soon. May it be the PAK-FA, the MiG Bingo the Su-66RST, there’re all just paper-tigers.

Two versions:
1. Chinese Carneval
China develops sexy looking aircraft and flies round the block with them from time to time. Some spotters photograph the aircraft with new payloads, just to blacken out serial numbers and any real information. Whole world says:”whooo, they have fighter!”. Then they present the somehow swept all-fighter, definetly 10 times better than a Eurofighter welded on an F-22. But finally they have to admit that they just played BS-bingo and actually the whole thing can’t fly a real mission. They stick to their J-11 and participate in the next Suchoi SomeThing, so that it might come to live.

2. Chinese Foxiness
China export J-7 and FC-1, that are more or less still a J-7. They fly J-11 with Russian stuff inside and everybody knows: they can’t do sh/t! But one day the unveile the J-10 in a contest and LM is so impressed that they immediatly dumb their F-16 and Boeing renames the F-18E the “Super Hopeless”. China is big, everybody buys his DVD-players and fighter aircraft there.

Truth:
Somewhere in between.

My opinion:
75% 1st version, 25% second version.

I’m sure the same thing can be said vice versa. The truth behind your evaluation can be based somewhere between denial and “expert” knowledge.

Interesting that all the positive aspects and achievements of the J-10 program are given credit to the Israelis and the Lavi program, but any negativity and pessimism is purely due to the Chinese. How can that be when the J-10 is “100%” Lavi? You can’t have it both ways or “in between.”

The Russian Air Force is not about to fall apart. There’s alarmists in Russia with their own agendas just as there are in the US.

And as for the earlier post about invasion of Russia… the only country that lives up to the Mad Man stereotype deluding themselves into thinking they can do anything they want in the world without regard of the consequences is the United States of America.

Here’s a brief I came across from Kanwa.

ASPECTS ON CHINA’S TWO TYPES OF “AEGIS” DDGS

Western/Russian battleship designers and Western naval affairs observers tend to believe that the design concepts of 052C “Chinese Aegis” DDG and 051C “Chinese-Russian Aegis” DDG are very impressive. Kanwa managed to confirm in Shanghai that 052C was fitted with a very powerful active phased array radar. Most Western naval affairs observers claim that Ukraine transferred to China some of the ship-borne active phased array radar technologies.