I have played about with the image on Picasa2 and I am now 99.99% sure that erver that the forth digit is NOT a 7 but a Square 3
The appears to be a definate slight downward line on the left hand side of the top edge and the acute angle on the right is different from the 4th and 5th digits
I also straightened the image
Paul
Tom
What is the Item Number ?
and its it on ebay.co.uk or ebay.com
Thanks
Paul
“I would say that’s a 7. 3s during this period tended to be rounded not straight topped”
Robert
I have spent most of the evening looking for pictures of early 1940 Hurricane’s with 3 in their serials. The only one I could see (in Aircraft for the few) has it 3 as a straight top, NOT rounded.. With an acute angle going down greater than the angle for a 7. I think I can see this acute angle on a zoom of the picture. I am SURE the angles off the last 2 digits are different …
Regards
Paul
His first one is called ‘Kiss Me Kate’.
He’s probably worn it out already by jumping up and down on the seat.
I guess he could be buying the CA-18 as they’re meant to be ar better than the P-51D, and he may flick on the former one.
Howabout
Suri you can’t be serious
or
Don’t Kiss Me Nicole
for his second one?
Peter Cornwell over on TOCH has abetter solution that ‘fits’
The aircraft in question is probably P2537 ‘Lost in France 1940’ by No. 79 Squadron.
“Cull & Franks would both have us believe this was P/O Appleton’s aircraft lost on May 14, 1940, but I doubt this even without the evidence of the photograph.”
I have zoomed in to picture and I think I can see the beginings of a 3 instead of a 7 for the 4 digit…
Paul
$3.5 million?
They saw him coming.
Moggy
Show me the Money!
P2577 was lost in France in May 1940. Air Britain lists it as with 615 Sqn at the time
I searched Times Digital Archive – Which is not freely availale via inter-web-net. You can get to it via some Public Libraries
death registry info came from free BMD Index at ancestry.co.uk
Paul,
Thanks for that bit about Jack, however, time for a new question, I have a copy of Jock’s obituary which mentions the crash and his actions, however the question is this:
What was Jacks surname, as you have mentioned him twice now as Jack Treadwell & the Obituary I have states TreadGOLD?
Bex
I can confirm 100% it was Treadwell – Same surname in 3 newspaper reports and in UK death registry for 1932
I have a number of photos taken at RAF Sealand by a Medic assistant in the early 1930’s and amongst these is a Siskin crash. This is probably not “your” Siskin (as I,m sure it’s a single seater) and may have been one of the few photos he took at Cranwell. I do remember my informant did say this was also a fatal. But if gives some idea of the awfullness of such a crash.
John
I have a crash at Sealand on June 11th 1930 – Don’t know the type but aircraft crashed and burst into flames. P/O Thomas King Injured
Just found out;
Treadwell succumbed to his injuries; Friday June 10, 1932
Comox Spitfire Photo here (well part of it anyway):
Eleven PR IV Spitfires are reckoned to have been supplied to Russia under operations ‘Tungsten’, ‘Orator’ and ‘Source’.
The serials are known.
Mark
11 Serials were:
AB132
AB423
AB427
BP884
BP889
BP891
BP917
BP923
BP926
BP929
BR658
Delivered as
4 + 7 (1 Spare)
Paul,
Well that certainly clears it all up, specially the aerodrome bit. So would I be right in saying then that the link that Moggy has posted is the correct one? Bex
Yes.. Details on GC Database are wrong;
Accident occurred at Barton Aerodrome (see Moggy Link)
Aircraft from RAF Sealand see:
Hi all,
I have a couple of questions regarding old aircraft that had a connection to a long friend old friend of mine, can anyone help please?1. What was a Siskin (he rescued a friend of his from a burning one in 1932)
2. What was a Ballenca (He was supposed to fly one in the 1934 MacRobertson Air Race)
3. ANyone know where Barton Aerodrome was (Above Siskin crashed in there)
Thanks in advance
Bex
This incident occurred on Tuesday, May 24, 1932 at Manchester Corporation Aerodrome, Barton, Manchester
Sgt Jack Treadwell aged 29 pilot seriously injured, LAC William Patrick Lane aged 22 (who was under instruction) killed
Sadly Sgt Jack Treadwell died in hospital 2 weeks later
2 Seat Siskin was from No. 5 Flying Traing School, Sealand, near Chester
Crashed from a spin, burst into flames.
Flt Sgt Eric Watt Bonar RAF Reserve, Chied Pilot of Northern Air Transport Limited) awarded Medal
of the Civil Division of the Orde of the Briish Empire (Announced Aug 5th 1932)
Serial of Aircraft is unknown to me at present