FF 22-7-40 8MU 22-7-40 64S 6-8-40 damaged by Bf109 Sgt Mann safe C2 9-8-40 GAL 53OTU 25-6-41 FACB 2-1-42 Westland 1402Flt 28-4-42 Abandoned after instrument failure W of Ennyvale Co.Tyrone 20-9-42 SOC 21-9-42 FH54.05
Sgt Mann is a think “Jackie” Mann
I think it is Spitfire R6992
Aeronut
You are right the British, French and Italians were also studying parachute designs but the US were way out in front
Paul
If I ever write my book on this…
The Irvin/Irving stuff will get a brief mention
You have to put in context.
After WW1 only the US Army Air Corps Engineering Divisionn (under Major Hoffman at Dayton Ohio) were interested in Parachute technology (the war was over why bother). They soon worked out that free-fall parachutes would be the only option.
Up to then all parachutes were of the “static” variety. i.e on attached to aircraft or balloon. These had a couple of restrictions, in as much that
a) parachute lines could get caught up in aircraft or would not ‘break free’ (I read one report of a German pilot who jumped from an aircraft over Italy during WW1 who ‘swung into the propeller’ when his line would not break free.
b) the US Army Air Corps also decided the static variety was a no-no when Canadian RFC pilot Lt Robert Allen Caldwell fell six hundred feet to his death at Dayton, Ohio, on June 11, 1919 using a Guardian Angel parachute when his static line was severed by hitting the aircraft before it could pull out the parachute from the aircraft. He was demonstrating the parachute to US Army Air Corps at the time.
c) Lt Robert Allen Caldwell’s unfortunate death (in front of probably the worlds most expert authorities on parachutes) also answered the long held question that a falling man did ‘not pass out’ after jumping as witnesses could see his fruitless actions in trying to save himself. Free-Fall Manually operated ones were the only option.
Irvin was employed at Dayton at the time (I am unsure of his role) but I believe as a “consultant” rather than enlisted. He was after all one of the leading experts at the time.
The US Army Air Corps, how had the type of parachute they wanted, but not all the technical detail. Size, type of material number of canopy sections, type of lines etc etc. Over the next couple of years they perfected this design (after testing) and Irvin did make the first test.
When this was finished the Army Air Corps issued the specification for “US Standard Parachutes” and an order – But of course no manufacturer existed.
So Irvin rushed of the Buffalo New York to start his factory and business and find investors and patents etc. I expect checking his name on the Incorporation documents was the least of his problems.
Floyd Smith also started his Business in Chicago. But I think he was very much playing catch-up. He was still in the US Army Air Corps at the time. So I assume had to “leave”. That’s why I think Irvin not enlisted, he just ‘left’ because he could.
As he was first out of starting blocks that’s why most Parachutes since then are of the “Irvin Type” – See advert
Smith/Irvin would be involved in patents disputes but that is another story
Michael
If you send me a private message with your email address I should be able to help you
Paul
Book is called “Dartmouth Conspiracy” and you can find it on Amazon reading this thread more it appears based on true events and even has the right aircraft (FW 190)
A local Devon author wrote a fiction book about Luftwaffe fighter attack in Dartmouth Naval College which is nearby to the local on this and other thread I wonder if it was based on a true story (but not necessarily the same target)
It is believed only 15 of these MOAB have been constructed. Perhaps Trump just couldn’t resist trying out a new toy!
But of course a successful deployment could always unlock the cash for more…..
Over 12 months later and thank to “Mojmir” on RAFCommands we have an answer the first character of signature is actually.a “H”
AC2 Smith 624052 is
Henry James Charles John SMITH
When we already have a reasonably good number of preserved Hurricanes flying and in museums, what really would be the point of going to all the trouble and expense of trying to raise, what would inevitably be, just a pile of corroded scrap?
This is the “Hurricane Rule” the Spitfire Mustang and P-40 Rules are different
Btw the “Hurricane Rule” is actually nearly moving to the others
I think the price will stay the same as the running costs won’t change, I am looking at having a flight in 2018 and have been told the following prices for 2018,
Boultbee £2750 for 30 minutes.
Biggin Hill £2450 for 30 minutes.
Classic wings £2450 for 25 minutes.
Aero Legends £2750 for 20 minutes.
That is like “CompareTheMartlet.com”
For reference
I am using the Air Britain UK Crash Log that they published in there magazine Aeromilitaria over a number of years
Paul
On this forum its all about Spitfires….
Tuesday 30/7/40.
Thirty first job: Spitfire N3287: Herford, Nr. Chudleigh, Devon
27.7.40 Spitfire I N3287 92 Sqn 2 m SE of Chudleigh, near Exeter AbN
Monday 15/7/40.
Twenty seventh job: Hawker Hind K6658: Shepton Mallet.
14.7.40 Hind I K6658 1 FTS Pylle, near Shepton Mallet, Somerset CFL
Twenty fourth job: Hawker Hart: Hullavington.
Half gang. Ordered to proceed to Hullavington to load above airframe and deliver and off load to 32nd Air Defence Squadron cadets, 2 Little John Street, Bristol. For instructional purposes.
This one would be a interesting one to ID
Anyone have a copy of the April 1975
Midlands Counties Aviation Society monograph “Cadet Corp Airframes” by Roy Bonser on the later Flypast listing on same subject