Dave
Air Britain Crash List in Aeromilitaria only detail crashes on land!
Ross McNeill probably has the most comprehensive sea crash information for around the UK which he has been gathering for many many years now.
Paul
Ross
I agree about published lists… and I also have no doubt MACFADZEAN buried as per CWGC register.. It is just that the evidence is increasing that he did not crash on land…
Paul
Ross
MACFADZEAN was down initially as “Missing believed killed on Active Service”, then subsequently updated to “Killed on Active Service” so a body must have been recovered later
Paul
Ross
Thanks – Not very much detail in the ORB ! Prehaps Dave can supply images or detail of the form 78 or 1180 to see what location it gives for W9179 #
Paul
Interesting According to Air Britain Serials W9179 dived into sea on this date
re: “Records I have list two Hurricanes of 59OTU lost that day (W9121 & W9184) “
These two aircraft in Northumberland Aviation Diary and Air Britain Aeromilitaria Summer 2009 as crashing on this day with 59 OTU
Air Britain has
27.03.43 Hurricane I W9121 59 OTU 1/2 mile SE of Brunton Cause: Undershot Landing at Night
27.03.43 Hurricane I W9184 59 OTU Chathill Northumberland Cause: Crashed on Take off at Night
I could not find MACFADZEAN on the UK Death Registers but it looks like a body was recovered because he is buried at KIRKNEWTON (ST. GREGORY) CHURCHYARD
Northumberland Aviation Diary puts Sgt (Pilot) Gordon A. CULLENER – 1383311(who died of wounds or injuries received on active service) on Hurricane W9121 at Brunton. But same source had Sgt Robert H.M. MACFADZEAN on W9184 at Chathill, Northumberland which as we now know is incorrect
Of course no one may have been killed on W9184. The 59 OTU ORB may solve this mystery but I do not have it!
Intersting list
Air Minitry what do #19 and #22 say please. I can’t make out the type
Paul
Dave
on TOCH suggested
August 18, 1941 the Hudson T9413 of 320 squadron
But would need more info like a appox date
Rare gems like that CIA operated Romulan Bird of Prey that came in at the weekend. DCW had his memory card wiped over for catching it on camera. Nifty things those cloaking devices… even works on hangars…:D
Surely that should be Romainlan Bird of Prey?
Zombie Hurricane P2537
Zombie
Sorry to bring this up but another photo of this Hurricane has popped up on ebay and spotted by someone from TOCH
Thread
http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?p=143069#post143069
Photo
http://www.ebay.de/itm/orig-Foto-Kam…item2a19c40266
However, I can’t find a copy of the original photo that startedvthis off in 2007 has anyone a caopy?
Thanks
Paul
Andy
Thanks for posting this
Its KN630
Paul
Did officers have kit bags?
The number appears to be an enlisted man at first glance.
Yes it is an enlisted mans the only way to trace the enlisted man is download all Air 78 W’s and read through them till you get a match on Service number
Yes Air 78 online and free
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/digital-microfilm.asp
Can’t see a Serviceman A G. Wainwright on Air 78 witrh those numbers..
I checked London Gazette as well and the number didn’t come up
I would suggest the only option is to check all Air 78 record for surname = ‘W’ and see if you get a match on servicenumber a long job!
I would guess that your P/O A.G. Wainwright is actually P/O ALEC GEORGE WAINWRIGHT 73 Sqn kiled 21/01/1941 who comissioned number 84675 and serviceman service number was 742052 – He is in Air 78-163
I could turn up matching the initials for 1940 was A G Wainright.
Hope you do not mind me ansking but what 1940 reference did you use to match AGW with P/O A G. Wainright? and do you have his full name?
Thanks
Paul
Graham why do yopu think it’s P/O Wainwright?
1241014 is a service number allocated to a serviceman (not officer in April 1940 at Cardington) – Of course he may have been comissioned later