Really, the J-10 would be a long shot to say the least! Surely, it would be alittle cheaper yet it doesn’t offer any performance advantage over the F-16 and Egypt already has a very large fleet of Vipers…………Pakistan yes Egypt no………..
Countries such as Egypt seem to be more influenced by politics and finances than actual operational capabilities. They also seem to have a quantity over quality emphasis. Look at the relatively large numbers of basic F-7’s acquired in the past. These aircraft were probably not even as capable as the exisitng MiG-21MF’s but were still purchased to maintain numbers (I think local assembly also may have been involved).
Given that they still have both rust bucket MiG-21’s and F-7’s shows that they still emphasise quanitity to some degree.
If Egypt buys the FC-1, it would be a deal similar to the K-8E where the plane is assembled in Egypt.
I agree with this. The FC-1 is an export fighter. It again probably isn’t as capable as existing F-16’s but it would allow the replacement of ageing fighters as well as more substantial local industry invovlement.
Perosnally I think Egypt’s future fighter purchases could well be influenced by whatever Libya acquires.
But it sure as hell is cool. I’d use them for that reason alone.
I agree that Egypt is a potential buyer of the J-10. However it would be in significantly smaller numbers than the F-16 because Egypt would have to pay for these aircraft themselves as opposed to getting an American subsidy.
What is interesting is that Egypt still has a lot of ancient jets ranging from MiG-21’s to Mirage V’s to F-4’s, with the F-4’s apparently being in very bad condition. This will need replacement some time in the future, and I am not sure what the Egyptians would acquire.
The Euro-canards don’t seem a likely choice mainly due to acquisition costs.
I doubt the Egyptians would acquire a Russian fighter aircraft again unless there is a signinficant change in policy and alignment.
This leaves the USA and China. China is a possibility due to cost and local industry invovlement.
The USA is most probable with extensive subsidies. However the choices here are less than clear due to several factors:
1. They could acquire additional new F-16’s but if they don’t order soon there is a chance of the production line shutting down.
2. They could opt for second hand upgraded F-16’s (most likely).
3. Not sure about the F-35. Would Egypt be eligible for this aircraft?
Cool. So will these just replace the T-37 or the FT-5 as well?
I know. My comment was regarding the service status of the Mi-24 as they were previously mentioned.
How many K-8’s do the Pakistanis have in service? And how many are they intending to buy?
Croatia’s Mi-24’s have been grounded for a long time now.
Yes, there was talk of the F-4E replacing the Mirage III, but with the F-111 being delivered….
The Australian Defence Department (in fact the entire government from Federal to local) suffers from what is sometimes known as “Tennis Elbow.”
The theory goes as such:
1. You buy membership to a tennis club. Under the terms you cannot cancel your membership.
2. You injure your arm and from now on will be in great pain if you play tennis.
3. However as you have paid for tennis membership you continue to insist on playing tennis because you have brought the membership in spite of the pain it causes you.
In essence you are deliberately locking yourself into a strategy even though it is impractical, inefficient etc.
The F-111 is a case of this. They were delivered 10 years late! But the Australian government persisted not because it was a groovy aeroplane but because they had already signed the contract.
The same applies to a number of seriously flawed acquisitions, the most prominent being the SH-2G Seasprite helos. These were purchased even though the ships they were to operate from were cancelled (a joint project with either Malaysia or Indonesia I think). The Defence Department created some stupidly complicated and almost unreachable specifications. The cost has skyrocketed and the helicopters are hanger queens and totally unoperational. $1.1 billion later (for only 11 helicopters) and there are some rumblings that the thing should be cancelled.
Then there’s the infamous Collins class subs which as far as I remember are only partially operational.
According to the AFM South American air forces survey, Ecuador’s Jaguars are kept in storage as an operational reserve.
Here’s an idea for Nroway and all the other Europeans countries as well:
1. Scrap defence forces other than SAR, fisheries and basic airdefense.
2. Subsidise US military units. Perhaps even “adopt” a US unit and fund it.
My reasoning is that it would appear that many western countries seem to only have militaries so they can deploy them in whatever war the United States has lined up for them.
Look at the Dutch scrapping of MPA’s and acquisition of Chinooks, Apaches and additional Hercules. Quite clearly the Dutch military is creating a mini-expeditionary force designed to operate in low intensity conflicts.
Australia was almost gonig to base its second hand M1 Abrams in the United States.
Italy plans to acquire more F-35’s than it does Eurofighters.
And now the Rafale has been knocked out of the Norwegian competition because it doesn’t fit into the US scheme of things.
Are they still only planning a measly 13 airframes?
And what will happen to the rest of the Cobras in servce? Will they soldier on or be phased out?
I have to confess to a terrible infatuation with any woman in uniform.
A woman in coveralls really doesn’t do it for me. But give her a nice business outfit with a skirt and high heels and I’m there!
(Or a nurses uniform even though it is cliched).
B-52 may be lethal but it’s also probably very costly and very time consuming to maintain.
Mind you this highlights one of the problems of democracy – inefficient usage of scarce resources.
I work for a government health bureacuracy and the amount of resources that go into operating hospitals that cater for a couple of hundred people is astronomic. At the same time we don’t have enough money for salaries or to renovate the main hospital in the state which is prone to outbreaks of infectious diseases and is generally decrepit (this is in Australia by the way).
But the couple of hundred hicks are rowdy while the city folk don’t care or unaware. When they tried to close down one of these redundant hospitals, theyre were death threats to senior management and in one case they burned the effigy of a senior manager (yes, once again this is Australia).
An interesting factor that no one has mentioned yet is that the amount of air cover is dependent on the land war.
The question arises will Pakistan have enough fighter aircraft to provide aircover for it’s fleet or MPA’s or launch anti-shipping strikes or will they be necessary over land to cover Indian numerical superiority?
So low level they occassionally fly into holes! :p