Willip26Great stuff thanks, wieesso and Planemike, for the further information and for being reminded of how G-ARMS looked outside the Tiger Club hangar (with CDC & OAA appearing in the background) in its original 1961 livery, complete with cowling inscription. 😀
Presumably the fact it was rebuilt with that registration instead of ZU-XRF (did it ever fly in those marks?) means there is still some connection with the original owner.
Perhaps he is bringing it back to the UK in May next year on the return flight for the 50th anniversary? Maybe he will also be bringing the funds to finally pay Rollasons if he can find them. :rolleyes:
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Willip26Thanks for the information guys, and Newforest I never cease to be amazed how either you or wieesso almost always manage to come up trumps with an answer to the most obscure of queries. 🙂
Also how often one question leads to several others and don’t suppose you or one of our South African members can come up with a copy of the 1961 accident report ?
Nice photo indeed and wonder why it is still wearing the UK registration markings so many years after being written off (hit wires I believe?). I am sure the story of this flight must be a fascinating one and any other details would be greatly appreciated.
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Willip26Fascinating thread, avion ancien, which brings back a number of happy memories, despite having never been to Pebsham. I too was one of those, who had his first ever flight with Mike Macey, in G-ANHR from Shoreham in 1958. His writing was not good but it appears the cost of the pleasure flight ticket, which I still have to this day was 15/-. I am not sure that both NHR and PAF were ever operated together as his Daedalus Air Services was very much a one man band, flying through the summer months and maintenance in the hut during the winter. Sadly he died a good few years ago in the Worthing area, from asbestosis of all things.
It was the only occasion I flew with him, but I flew several more times in NHR from 1977 onwards, after a friend rebuilt it. I believe it now lives in a hangar roof somewhere in the North of England awaiting yet another restoration.
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Willip26Correctly identified, Tim, but what of its history as F-BJAS?
I saw it a couple of months back at the Wings Museum in Sussex, still dismantled but fuselage now fabric covered, and was told it had just over 100 Alpine rescue missions to its name.
As it is in the same ownership as Messenger G-AGOY was before it recently came up for sale, I wonder if it will likewise be offered for sale in the future as it seems a prime candidate for restoration bearing in mind it no longer fits in with the Museum’s current criteria.
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Willip26DFS Kranich
Wot no gliders allowed? I seem to recall a vintage DFS Kranich appearing at Shoreham many years ago, which was to be used in the 1963 film ‘The Running Man’ starring Laurence Harvey.
A display feature concerning the Airport’s 100th anniversary, currently on at the rear of the main restaurant, reminds me that this was the (presumably) Swedish – built machine SE-SCC.
For the purposes of the film’s storyline it was delberately ditched in the sea, although I have no recollection as to the tug and whether there were any other aircraft scenes.
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Willip26For the flyers amongst you just a heads up to advise that for anyone who missed last year’s event, there is another opportunity to fly in to Thorney Island on the weekend of 25th/26th September, when there is an Armed Forces Charity air day.
PPR required and contact can be made via the organiser on e-mail, details given on the Royal Aero Club’s Calendar of Events website.
Willip26How unlucky is that! What is it with Popham and the PA22 Caribbean/Tri-Pacer? They say that bad things go in threes and this is the third time in the last few years that the Popham Flying Group has had one written-off, having previously lost first G-ARCC and then its replacement G-ARHP.
Nasty for the occupants but let’s hope they are soon on the way to a full recovery.
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Willip26Picture taken at Chivenor late 1960s/early 1970s, G-APAA was written off in a crash at Badminton 9/8/1975 and subsequently withdrawn from use, with the wings apparently going towards rebuilding another Auster.
I first flew to Sandown in a Chipmunk in July 1977 and, end of an era perhaps, we paid our respects with a possible final visit this afternoon.
However, all does not seem to be lost just yet as the local gossip is that great efforts are being made to appeal for an extension.
Good to see that some things never change as we were marshalled in by Henry, who has been a part of the furniture there for as long as I can remember. The cafe in the portacabin has now closed but the lady running it has today moved her stock to the Specialist Flying School on the other side of the airfield, where she officially re-opens for business on Saturday.
Although some of the residents have left and the Tipsy Junior G-AMVP is moving to the glider hangar at Bembridge, some of the diehards are holding on and best of luck to them with their appeal.
Anyone visiting by air is advised to contact the Specialist Flying School number on 01983 402402.
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Willip26Hi Richard
Same one as this methinks?
Twin Comanche G-BAKJ.
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Willip26Sad accident indeed – aircraft involved was SV4C G-BIMO. 🙁
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Willip26It might seem like showing off to return to this thread for another crack and if it does seem so then I apologise as it’s not meant to be, but I have just been through the most uplifting and life-enriching experience that I wanted to share it with other Forum members in the hope that it might give encouragement to any others facing a life-threatening illness or other major life crisis.
After 14 years of kidney dialysis for four hours three times a week for End Stage Renal Failure, as a result of the battering that my heart muscle had been taking, I was diagnosed earlier this year as needing what is quaintly known in the trade as a ‘cabbage’, i.e a Coronary Artery Bypass Graft. More specifically this meant an aortic valve replacement and a double (which ultimately turned out to be triple) heart bypass.
The heart surgeon advised that if I didn’t have the treatment then there was a 50/50 chance of not being around any more in 2 years’ time, but if I went ahead with the operation there was a normal 5% risk (slightly increased to 7 – 9% due to the renal complications). So it seemed there was a near 1 in 10 chance of not making it, but being a supreme optimist and operating on the basis of the ‘glass is half full’ way of thinking a better than 90% chance of success. As my surgeon put it the decision was a ‘no brainer’ really.
I was musing last time I was on this thread about the odds of surviving a spell in ITU and was hoping it would not be a case of ‘3 strikes and you’re out’ as I was warned of another likely spell in there after surgery due to the past medical history.
In the event this did not happen and after my operation on Thursday 3rd June by the Cardiac team at the Royal Sussex County Hospital, Brighton I was initially put into the care of the Cardiac High Dependency Unit. A scary first night with the mind playing all sorts of tricks due no doubt to the effects of the anaesthetic and other drugs wearing off. Soon though transfer was made to the main Cardiac recovery unit, where it was tough going but due to the marvellous treatment from my surgeon Mr Hyde and the team of wonderful doctors and nurses, plus ward staff, domestics, catering staff and porters from many nationalities, along with the love and support of my beautiful wife, family, friends and work colleagues, by Day 4 after the operation the possibility of discharge from the hospital was already being talked about.
One or two minor problems meant I was not let out until Day 8 but now back home again the recovery begins in ernest. I am feeling a lot stronger already and really positive and am eternally grateful that at the age of 64 I have been given a new lease of life. I don’t think I fully appreciated before exactly how ill and weak I had become in the past several months, to the extent that a couple of years ago I had to relinquish my share in our Group’s Piper Cub after nearly 30 years of part ownership. Due to painful joints I was no longer enjoying the struggle of trying to climb into or out of it, so the share had to go and continued aerial adventures since have only been due to the kindness of a good friend with a C182 (thanks Jerry and ‘ZG).
Now with my strength building up daily I think I might give the Cub another go in a few months being confident of at last being able to hop into it again.
So it’s a great feeling to be still alive.
Onwards and upwards!
Wicked Willip :diablo:
Willip26It might seem like showing off to return to this thread for another crack and if it does seem so then I apologise as it’s not meant to be, but I have just been through the most uplifting and life-enriching experience that I wanted to share it with other Forum members in the hope that it might give encouragement to any others facing a life-threatening illness or other major life crisis.
After 14 years of kidney dialysis for four hours three times a week for End Stage Renal Failure, as a result of the battering that my heart muscle had been taking, I was diagnosed earlier this year as needing what is quaintly known in the trade as a ‘cabbage’, i.e a Coronary Artery Bypass Graft. More specifically this meant an aortic valve replacement and a double (which ultimately turned out to be triple) heart bypass.
The heart surgeon advised that if I didn’t have the treatment then there was a 50/50 chance of not being around any more in 2 years’ time, but if I went ahead with the operation there was a normal 5% risk (slightly increased to 7 – 9% due to the renal complications). So it seemed there was a near 1 in 10 chance of not making it, but being a supreme optimist and operating on the basis of the ‘glass is half full’ way of thinking a better than 90% chance of success. As my surgeon put it the decision was a ‘no brainer’ really.
I was musing last time I was on this thread about the odds of surviving a spell in ITU and was hoping it would not be a case of ‘3 strikes and you’re out’ as I was warned of another likely spell in there after surgery due to the past medical history.
In the event this did not happen and after my operation on Thursday 3rd June by the Cardiac team at the Royal Sussex County Hospital, Brighton I was initially put into the care of the Cardiac High Dependency Unit. A scary first night with the mind playing all sorts of tricks due no doubt to the effects of the anaesthetic and other drugs wearing off. Soon though transfer was made to the main Cardiac recovery unit, where it was tough going but due to the marvellous treatment from my surgeon Mr Hyde and the team of wonderful doctors and nurses, plus ward staff, domestics, catering staff and porters from many nationalities, along with the love and support of my beautiful wife, family, friends and work colleagues, by Day 4 after the operation the possibility of discharge from the hospital was already being talked about.
One or two minor problems meant I was not let out until Day 8 but now back home again the recovery begins in ernest. I am feeling a lot stronger already and really positive and am eternally grateful that at the age of 64 I have been given a new lease of life. I don’t think I fully appreciated before exactly how ill and weak I had become in the past several months, to the extent that a couple of years ago I had to relinquish my share in our Group’s Piper Cub after nearly 30 years of part ownership. Due to painful joints I was no longer enjoying the struggle of trying to climb into or out of it, so the share had to go and continued aerial adventures since have only been due to the kindness of a good friend with a C182 (thanks Jerry and ‘ZG).
Now with my strength building up daily I think I might give the Cub another go in a few months being confident of at last being able to hop into it again.
So it’s a great feeling to be still alive.
Onwards and upwards!
Wicked Willip :diablo:
Willip26Am I right in thinking early M20B model G-JDIX (the former G-ARTB) may have been the Mooney involved in this unfortunate crash?
If so I wonder what is the significance, if any, in it having come back onto the UK register just a couple of days before, after a short spell apparently in Germany.
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Willip26What is the actual date of the centenary? Webb & Bird’s history of Shoreham Airport says that Harold Piffard managed a hop in his second biplane at New Salts Farm in May 1910 but that the first recorded proper flight was made on 10 July 1910 from an area which is now in the south-east corner of the present airfield site. If these facts are correct, there appears to be nothing taking place to mark the actual dates (although I accept that no date is given for the May 1910 hop and there is a book fair at Shoreham Airport that month). As 10 July 2010 is a Saturday, one might have expected an event that day. Is the centenary fly-in, the following week-end, taking place then just because these dates are convenient to someone or is there a dispute as to the date of the “first recorded proper flight”?
Mike
No idea if the Webb/Bird info is correct or not but have no reason to doubt them as they seem to have done plenty of research on the history of the Airport. Pretty sure there is only the remotest chance of anyone still being alive today who was witness to the event to contradict them, so I think we shall have to accept what they say. Sadly another link to the Airport’s former years has gone this week as Vic Wheele, who was involved with the Southern Aero Club under CFI Cecil Pashley and either owned or operated a number of Tiger Moths, namely G-AKXO/LVP/OIS and OZH, passed away on Wednesday aged 83.
bazv & timuss – I have no involvement with the book fair next weekend but may well attend. Full details of this and other events are on the website http://www.shorehamairport.co.uk/ although strangely the centenary fly-in now appears to have dropped off.
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Willip26As stansted and Gatwick happily accepted GA to fly over, why didnt Heathrow?
I wish I had some time booked to fly while these restrictions are in place as it would be great to see the big airports from above, but sadly I lack the money right now.
The whole thing has become ridiculous – shades of the Bermuda Triangle and swine flu all over again. I believe it was a political decision that decreed no access to Heathrow airspace and suspect that the powers that be were jittery at the prospect of all those journos camped there seeing lots of little aircraft flying over when the airline passengers were being kept firmly on the ground.
Seems a shame as Stansted and Gatwick were being very helpful and accommodating – believe the former even allowed a hot air balloon to lift off from there. Luton too were perfectly happy to accept a similar request for a flyby from Auster G-AHAM on a local sortie out of Rush Green.
Appears, however, that to some extent we were lucky in the UK as we heard much of Northern Europe, including the whole of Belgium and Holland, and possibly Norway and Sweden as well, were accepting no flights at all over their territories.
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