Actually, if I was pickking the ideal size for a Hypothetical carrier, I would trade ‘ship’ systems such as an extensive radar suite and weapons other than CIWS and C3 (or is it now C4?) capability in order to push the size of the ship up to 40,000tons if possible, moving these ‘lost’ capabilities to escorts whilst leaving space and weight in the carrier design for later installation if needed. The biggest battle a carrier will ever face is the one to be built in the first place, and keeping the initial costs down is one way to win that battle (HMS Ocean cost little more than a frigate by keeping the ships systems simple, no air search radar or missile systems for example, though these could be added at a later date if required), so I would aim for a ship that coulld operate a medium sized air group (including Strike/Fighters, AEW and ASW types as well as facilities for LPH operations) whilst keeping the ship simple and planning for later upgrades. 40,000tons brings the ship to the threshold of CTOL operations thus opening up the options for operational use. Plan to fight your own short sighted politicians before you plan to fight your nations enemies 😉
While I understand the ecomnomic arguement behind keeping weapons fit on CVs to a minimum, the lack of say missile systems for example, has always alarmed me. Surely the possibility of mass AShM attack is still considered a possiblity (I assume thats the driving force behind Horizon/T45 and PAAMS) in which case, every vessel having some sort of defensive capability has got to be a requirement. I’d also be concerned about comparisons to Ocean – it may be as cheap as a frigate, but then was it built to the standards of say a Type 23? I’d heard the comments “its only got to get there” more than once during its design and build stage which cannot be reassuring for either the vessels crew or the guys they’ve just dropped on hostile territory!
Phil
The energy requirements of the entire Department of Defense are miniscule compared to the sum total of consumer demand.
Building nuclear powered surface combatants will do almost nothing to “cut our dendence on foreign oil.”
No, its not going to reduce the US’s dependance on foriegn fuel, but presumably the aim is to prevent hamstringing of the navy operations away from home? e.g. for whatever reason, you find the ports of the Gulf States closed to USN shipping. You have a better capability for maintaining a presence without that support and without relying on tankers from further afield.
hello and astute
Hi all, my first post, so I’d like to quickly say good forum (been dipping into for a few months). However there is some substance to my posting>
The Astute problems I can understand to an extent after having been told about the capability/skill/personel loss that occured in the manufacturing phase in the period between the trafalgar class and the Astutes, but if the CVF is the other in this case the MoD only has itself to blame simply for taking so much time, and lets face we have seen an aweful lot of change in the design.
With regards Astute, MOD are making the same mistake again in delaying Batch 2 – they never learn 🙁