My thoughts as well. I would like to say I’m in no way trying to upset people and nor am I yank bashing but I just can’t figure out this need for extreme speed. When your in a congested litoral space and a Linx pops out from behind a nearby island and fires a couple of skuas at you from 2-3 miles away being able to go 9 knots faster then other ships can isn’t really going to save you, or is it? Convince me how this is a good idea. No other navy seems bothered by this concept, are they all wrong?:confused:

Thanks spudman, not trying to wind you up but why not stay out in or near blue water and send in your choppers to deal with litoral fast boat, sub threat. I could see the point if the LCS was defending congested home waters but the idea is it invades other peoples litorals?

So with the current CVF build schedule which yards will have spare capacity to build C1 and when. Am I right in thinking there will be little capacity untill2015-16. With 3+ years to build a ship the another 18 months to comission that means no new ships till 2020-21. So what happens about type 22 all out of service before 2020.

A couple of points/questions.
Had Victorious been recomissioned & HM Government forcing scrapping of the ‘big carriers’ would it not have been better to keep Vicky & Hermes as they would’ve been cheeper to run. There is a photo in Richard Johnstone-Brydens book ‘HMS Ark Royal IV’ of the P1127 landing dated Feb 7 but no year, so presume it was before her feb’67 refit. Eagle trialed Phantoms in ’68 & Harrier GR1’s March 70. Ark flew Phantoms 70+ & trialed Harrier GR1’s May’71 & GR3’s October ’75. Could Navy not try & go for 12 SHARS + 14 GR1’s as a replacement for Sea Vixens & buccaneers plus AEW, HAS etc? SHAR development sped up due to need? Could Victorious & Hermes have been projected to operate such an air group? Then designing a purpose built bird farms of 30- 35,000 tons sort of a cross between Victorious & Invincible, for commisioning 1980+?

7 Feb 1963. Fourth commision Sept 61-Feb 64

pj from RN’s own website

medium range area defence anti aircraft missile powered by a ramjet and solid fuel booster rocket. The missile is effective at a range of over 80km. The solid fuel booster engine accelerates the missile to a speed of Mach 2 before it leaves the launcher arm. The missile forms the main armament of the Type 42 area air defence destroyers.

Right there should be an image attached to this:o It’s a BVT C1 design from DSEi 2009.

What about that then? All you would really have to do is remove the Artisan radar slap the CEAFAR and CEAmount mast array on the top of it. On the bow switch out the Mk8 mod 1 gun for the 5″ gun remove the A35/A43 launchers add in the Mk 41 VLS system around 32 cells ideally. The Phalanx mounts i would put them on some sort of structure to raise them up for better arcs. Maybe extend the hangar to have 2 small side spaces for UAV’s and then put the Phalanx mounts on that.

What do people think?

Where are the exhaust stacks

Al not sure what your saying. Were not british, dutch and australian ships being sunk, were not british troops being sluaghtered at this time?

That would be everything that Echo listed, considering all those assets outgun/outrange the RN’s offensive weapons systems to many degrees.

Hmmm that took some time! So an Udaloy outranges /out guns a Daring, amazing to think the worlds most a advanced warship is actual a pile of poo compared to some 70’s design from the soviet union. Again it just increadable to think that these fantasticaly powerfull units that easily outgun any other ships were never used in anger. As said earlier the northern fleet can bush aside all of NATO. Imagine what it could have done a quater century ago when the fleet was 3-4 times bigger and actually new(ish)