… and you expect to be taken seriously? :rolleyes:

Actually its ol’Kimmy who doesn’t take YOU seriously. He and his dad have been screwing around with us since the end of the Korean War and we have done nothing.

Balony!

First of all, I’m not looking for excuses for anything or anyone.
Second, if you had half an incling of what war is and means, you wouldn’t be propagating this position in the first place. War is serious business and going to war should not be decided on the basis of whether or not one ‘has balls’.
Thirdly, if you looked at the studies of decision making under conditions of stress or crisis (e.g. Cuban missile crisis), you’ld realise the importance of independent thinking and restraint.
Again, you – like me – have no way of knowing exactly what the SK ship was doing and were. We’re all aware of how information can be manipulated. Does ‘Gulf of Tonkin incident’ ring a bell? Or KAL 007? Therefor, IMHO, your assessment is premature.

Excuses, excuses. So you think the ship sank in NK waters? Then the salvage team that brought the ship up were violating NK territory as well since the ship sank right where the explosion happened.

So you want diplomacy to take its course? So do we have to wait another 50 years before we see progress. Diplomacy really did a bang up job on getting rid of NK nuke program in the 90’s….NOT:rolleyes: IMAO “letting diplomacy runs its course” is code word for we don’t have the balls to go to war so ol’ Kimmy stays in power and gives the world the middle finger.

Is it the body count that bothers you about going to war? I guess you are ok with the thousands of NK’s who slowly starved to death over the last few years because you don’t see the piles of skin and bones plastered all over CNN or the BBC.

People die everyday. Somedays a lot of people die at once. About 300,000 Haitians died in less than 20 minutes in an earthquake. How many died in that China quake last week?

How many massacres occured in Africa say…in the last 72 hours. Sorry those didn’t happen since it wasn’t on CNN.

So it looks like a torpedo. So what? Sure that’s and act of war but are we all ready to launch a full scale war against North Korea? Actually a few well placed nukes will end this threat in minutes but no one has the nads to do that because of the NK civilian body count and therefore ol Kimmy will rattle his saber every so often and maybe sink another ship or shoot down a plane or two and we do nothing and he’s still in charge.

Except that the actual cost of the F-35 is tracking below projections…

Really? Then explain why SECDEF Gates fired the general in charge of the program in Feb 2010 and withheld 600 million in payments to LM because of rising costs and delays. Also the GAO in Mar of 2010 anounced that the cost of a F-35 would be around 112 million per copy and the Pentagon admitted that the cost of the F-35 has gone up by more than 50 percent.

In the 70’s an F-14 Tomcat fell off the flight deck of a US carrier and there was a frantic search for it because the US was worried that the Soviets would find it. We were able to find and recover it.

US reduces frontline systems. Russia dumps systems that are outdated anyway and is replacing with newer ones and since US agrees to reduce their strength Russia doesn’t have to spend extra money on newer more expensive systems to maintain parity.

globalissues.org is a bleeding heart liberal propaganda piece of crap. pcfem is right about how entitlement programs are running the US into the ground. There are a few states that are going bankrupt and they aren’t funding the WOT.

Gasing Iraqi Kurds back in 80s was, too, internal matter so what do you care?
Those lovely double standards… 😎

…and did we go into Iraq in the 80’s out of concern for the Kurds? Nope. Did we go into Rwanda in the 90’s out of concern for the tribal warfare going at the time? Nope.

I’m not condemming Russia’s power play, hell I’m admiring it. Its right out of Machiavelli’s The Prince.